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Re: The A Bombs Of Japan: necessary ???

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Well that was my question as well (which you unhappily haven't answered) ; you brought up Americans flocking the nowadays museum sides aka ww2 battelships (and I still wonder why you brought this up?)
its a fact.
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Re: The A Bombs Of Japan: necessary ???

the History of the Iowa class including post WW2 service. for those that can't use a computer

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namvet, no one is debating whether or not the Iowa class battleship was used post-WW2. What is being debated is whether those battleships had a real military purpose after WW2.
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its a fact.
right, so what do tourists have to do with military capability. The point Stapo was trying to make was that while many tourists flock to the U-boat museums in Germany, the German U-boats of WW2 can hardly be considered militarily useful after WW2.
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namvet, no one is debating whether or not the Iowa class battleship was used post-WW2. What is being debated is whether those battleships had a real military purpose after WW2.
obviously they did. otherwise why didn't they retire them post WW11????? hmmmmm
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right, so what do tourists have to do with military capability. The point Stapo was trying to make was that while many tourists flock to the U-boat museums in Germany, the German U-boats of WW2 can hardly be considered militarily useful after WW2.
I think you missed it again. really. pal. your seriously chasing your own tail here. its obvious why to a 4 year old.
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obviously they did. otherwise why didn't they retire them post WW11????? hmmmmm
Again, there was no good military reason to keep them around after WW2. So, obviously, whomever made the call to keep them around made a mistake.
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I think you missed it again. really. pal. your seriously chasing your own tail here. its obvious why to a 4 year old.
I don't think you even know what point you were trying to make here. Again, I ask (if you are even capable of answering it): What does the tourist draw of of a battleship today have to do with its military value post WW2?
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Again, there was no good military reason to keep them around after WW2. So, obviously, whomever made the call to keep them around made a mistake.
the government thought Hammer. why???? your suposed to a marine. they were used for gunfire support for troops ashore. and you didn't read the link i posted. its in there. why is this so hard for you to understand???? its plain, clear and simple.
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the government thought Hammer. why???? your suposed to a marine. they were used for gunfire support for troops ashore. and you didn't read the link i posted. its in there. why is this so hard for you to understand???? its plain, clear and simple.
Because we had other ships that were perfectly capable of providing accurate gunfire support, as well as imporved CAS capabilities. The further WW2 receeded into the past, the more and more battleships became redundant.
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I don't think you even know what point you were trying to make here. Again, I ask (if you are even capable of answering it): What does the tourist draw of of a battleship today have to do with its military value post WW2?
nothing Hammer. nothing. their musuem pieces now. come on. am I really talking to a 4 year old here???? you've lost you basic common sense boy.
I had faith you were acutally a united states marine. but you have the mind of a 4 year old.
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Because we had other ships that were perfectly capable of providing accurate gunfire support, as well as imporved CAS capabilities. The further WW2 receeded into the past, the more and more battleships became redundant.
we did???? why didn't you say so??? can you ask the government why they kept using these battleships. do you have a clue????
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Re: The A Bombs Of Japan: necessary ???

tap tap............Hammer. why????
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nothing Hammer. nothing. their musuem pieces now. come on. am I really talking to a 4 year old here???? you've lost you basic common sense boy.
I had faith you were acutally a united states marine. but you have the mind of a 4 year old.
Then why did you attempt to connect the large amounts of tourists they draw to their military relevancy?
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we did???? why didn't you say so??? can you ask the government why they kept using these battleships. do you have a clue????
I am asking you namvet, because you agree with them.
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