Originally Posted by htperr6565

once again, you are demonstrating that you cannot understand this issue outside of the faulty false dilemma (drop bomb or invade)

i am suggesting that neither was necessary. you cannot understand that because you have let ignorance define your view of possibilities here.

save your self righteousness and high and mightiness for your vet meetings.

Originally Posted by Si modo

Right. You are suggesting starving millions of Japanese to death as an alternative. I wonder if the Japanese would have appreciated such generosity from you.

Originally Posted by namvet

ah. so we call it even and all go home???? no hard feelings????

Originally Posted by htperr6565

yes... did not they come to their senses after the dropping of the bombs?

whose to say they would not come to their senses after a year passed and they realized they were still cornered, still denied the ability to pursue their ambition?

But, since truman wanted to begin the cold war, we will never know.

keep worshiping the vaporization of human life if it fits into your national mythology.

Originally Posted by namvet

duh............NO !!!! the Army invaded the Emperors palace with the intension of preventing the surrender boradcast. now what????

Originally Posted by namvet

duh............NO !!!! the Army invaded the Emperors palace with the intension of preventing the surrender broadcast. now what????

Originally Posted by htperr6565

did they or did they not surrender??? you cannot have it both ways.

Originally Posted by htperr6565

nope. sorry. nice try to define my words for me. A one year blockade does mean millions starve. it means they are denied resources for economic expansion and trade. yes, it would have made life tough on the japanese, but they still would have had a chance to survive. with the bomb, not possible.

so you are now equating the dropping of the bomb with compassion?

Originally Posted by htperr6565

so now you are admitting that the emperor was in charge? i thought it was the army? make up your mind, you cannot have it both ways.

Originally Posted by Si modo

Blockades don't starve, especially on an isolated island that has not enough resouces to feed and depends on trade to feed? Wow, you are quite the dreamer.

Originally Posted by htperr6565

Nope, we realize that we already won the war for all practical purposes and that the stubborness of a military regime to not surrender does not require us to lower ourselves to their level and vaporize human life. If you want to live at the standards of the military regime in Japan, then you move there. In america, we are taught that we are above that type of nonsense.

Originally Posted by namvet

they failed to find the recording. it was hidden. they had every intention of fighting to the end. otherwise why go after the recording??? now what????

Originally Posted by namvet

and just who gave us this realization???? did they send someone to washinton???? a delegete to the front lines????

Originally Posted by namvet

and just who gave us this realization???? did they send someone to washinton???? a delegete to the front lines????

Originally Posted by htperr6565

the question was did they or did they not surrender. one more chance, bomb worshiper.