Ill just don't get something about the US.

The US right say over and over again that, the media is against them..

The media is against them, the media is against them..

So...

The build up to Iraq, the media piles in for Bush, giving it more 'benefit of the doubt' than many, at least in the UK, have seen in the US for years and years.

This is most people's impression.

What happened? Was that correct?

If so, why did that happen?

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What happened?

What do you think happened?

What group controls US foreign policy?

How many members of this group are heavy hitters in the media?

I will give you just one piece to the puzzle. Hopefully it will interest you enough to do a little digging on your own.

In 1953 U.S. Congressman B. Carroll Reece investigated tax exempt foundations. Rene Wormser, Chief Counsel for the Reece Committee, authored a book titled Foundations, Their Power and Influence on the findings of the investigation, in which he wrote,

"The Council on Foreign Relations, another member of the international complex, financed both by the Rockefeller and Carnegie foundations, overwhelmingly propagandizes the globalist concept. This organization became virtually an agency of the government when WWII broke out. The Rockefeller Foundation had started and financed certain studies known as the War and Peace Studies, manned largely by associates of the Council [CFR]; the State Department, in due course, took these studies over, retaining the major personnel which the CFR had supplied".pg 209

"Foundation activity has nowhere had a greater impact than in the field of foreign affairs. It has conquered public opinion and has largely established the international-political goals of our country". [He goes on to list some of the "major instruments" as the CFR, Foreign Policy Association, Institute of Pacific Relations and United Nations Association] pg 200

"It would be difficult to find a single foundation-supported organization of any substance which has not favored the U.N. or similar global schemes; fantastically heavy foreign aid at the burdensome expense of the taxpayer; meddling in the colonial affairs of other nations; and American military commitments over the globe. This was comparatively easy to accomplish because there was no organized or foundation-supported opposition. The influence of the foundation complex in internationalism has reached far into government, policy-making circles of Congress, and State Department". Pg 200-01

"The far-reaching power of the large foundations and of the interlock, has so influenced the press, the radio, and even the government that it has become extremely difficult for objective criticism of foundation practices to get into news channels without having first been distorted, slanted, discredited and at times ridiculed." U.S. Gov Printing Office, 1954- Findings of Fact and Supporting Material - U.S. House Special Committee to Investigate Tax-Exempt Foundations [Reece Investigations] pg 17

America's SHADOW Government

Well the general impression is that the media gave the bush admin a pass for the iraq invasion.

Forget this 'shadow government' stuff for a minute.

Is this true or not?

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A pass?...you guys from another time?
The media was not giving anyone a pass. Can't remember who said it, it was a Republican congressman I believe - "if the three networks and the New York Times was the only new source there is, I would believe Iraq had Washington D.C. surrounded, and not the other way around".
You guys not remember "Day 117, and still no WMD's found" etc. etc. etc.
I have no idea how anyone would think that the media gave the President a pass on anything, mush less the war.

interesting

what devastating critiques/ questions were being supplied at the white house press conferences pre invasion?

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White House press conference?
Since when is any breaking news happen at the daily Press conferences?
These things are mutually beneficial for the press and the officials, press gets to appear on TV asking questions, and the officials can get on TV in an environment controlled by them.

Did you not see the nightly news reports back then?
The words of the day were "fierce resistance".."Day "___" and still no WMD's"..."no exit strategy"..."should Rumsfield resign" .."is this invasion legal"..."when will it end"...etc. etc.

And then you might remember an event that happened by a hand full of traitorous "soldiers" at a place called Abu Ghirab"...the media made this the biggest scandal in world history...but chose not to show nearlly ANY footage of the MASSIVE grave sights found throughout Iraq....why didn't they?.

In the earliest days I say yes, the media gave the White House a free pass. Within 90 days, give or take a couple weeks, questions started being asked, but this was only when the flag waving started to wane.

Remember, in the early days, you were either "with us, or against us."

The coverage of the Patriot Act was much the same. At first, you were un-American if you questioned the Patriot Act, but after many states and cities started questioning the Un-Patriot act, more and more people took off their blinders and questioned how this act would help protect us against terrorism.

You are not American, so you didn't see the flag waving in America. You didn't see the millions of people who bought plastic stickers of a ribbon and put these stickers on their cars in "support of the troops."

Millions of stickers, supporting the troops, but it only took a few months for this support to falter, a few more months for the stickers to start to come off vehicles and within a year support was seriously deteriorating.

WIKI actually has a pretty good page detailing public support for the Iraq invasion.........

Popular opinion in the US on the invasion of Iraq - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It is easy to dismiss the other info I posted and since you are not an American, I don't blame if you are not interested, but if you happen to actually care about the truth, you will never know what it is unless you research the CFR, the Foundations, the Round Table groups and the history of banking.

I only know of one person who quit the CFR, Rear Admiral Chester Ward, who co-authored a book titled "Kissinger on the Couch"..........

“Once the ruling members of the CFR have decided that the U.S. Government should adopt a particular policy, the very substantial research facilities of CFR are put to work to develop arguments, intellectual and emotional, to support the new policy, and to confound and discredit, intellectually and politically, any opposition.” (Admiral Chester Ward, Kissinger on the Couch, p. 151. 1975.)

“[the CFR has as a goal] submergence of U.S. sovereignty and national independence into an all-powerful one-world government.… this lust to surrender the sovereignty and independence of the United States is pervasive throughout most of the membership.… In the entire CFR lexicon, there is no term of revulsion carrying a meaning so deep as ‘America First’” (Admiral Chester Ward, Kissinger on the Couch, pp. 144-150. 1975.)

Is there any truth to Admiral Ward's words? How much truth?

Only you can decide if you care enough about the truth to educate yourself.

This is a big thing about conservatives in America. Anybody who doesn't support them is a traitor and should be shot. The medias main job is to wrap everyone in a flag and tell us all how wonderful America is no matter what. Pretty anchorwomen are the main thing, since the media is just a cheerleading squad anyway

Notice the one post above bitching about how the media were so biased since they went on about there being no WMD. By conservative lights the media should have photoed our own stockpiles at Aberdeen and then showed them as in Iraq, they should have ignored Abu Gharib and/or called the soldiers traitors for doing what they were told.

I truly don't see how anyone can be stupid enough to believe that conservatives should be listened to when they say there's a bias against them. Of course they're going to say that, it's so obviously self-serving, how fucking idiotic do you have to be to believe it? Now if they were saying theres a bias against the liberals I would listen, not because I'm saying there is but because there's no motivation on their part to say so, so they must have a pretty good case to convince them.

Anybody to the left of Ghenghis Khan is a bleeding heart wienie to these guys.

It's one thing I give liberals, they don't insult your intelligence by going on and on about how the media hates them just because they tell the truth and it sometimes does them harm.

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The quality of media is a basic pillar of democracy.

The Americans should be very concerned about the status of US media today - it is the worst in the industrialized world and even worse than in many African countries (according to the Reporters without Borders).

Bush discovered a nice system how to keep the media on his track. He ordered that media should write only his own press releases and media is not allowed to write anything "new" without letting his office to control the text. Violations led to the banning of the whole media house from governmental information services.

The US media control is a copy from Hitler's system where the science of propaganda, manipulation and control was established.

When analyzing US media, the reporters used 911 as an example. If you watch the news before noon from that day, the media reports about several explosions in buildings and fire men and police officers reported that they have even found an unexploded device from the WTC structures. After the noon, not a single media house mentioned about that, no people were interviewed and only "police" from outside of the NYPD were reading from a paper their "facts". Not a single media house violated the order which came from Bush Hawks. OK - NBC and BBC reported 20 min too early that the WTC-7 has collapsed and the undamaged building was standing behind the reporter in the film. When that was understood, an "technical failure" made the picture disappear. This is Goebbel's media manipulation.

PS - the best country has years after years been Finland in the list of Reporters without Borders.

the media only supported the Iraq thing due to the fact that whenever clinton got a blow job he pointed to iraq with his faulty intelligence


after that it was game on the media has gone back to their roots, extreme liberalism, and their agenda has been pushed down americas throat in such a impressive manner that the manchurian candidate got elected............

denzel washington?

Anyway, Id prefer more on whether or not the media was giving the white a free pass in the build up the invasion.

If this is so, how can the right contend that its against them?

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Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if Labor had not first existed. Labor is superior to capital, and deserves much the higher consideration.

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Interesting thank you.

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Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if Labor had not first existed. Labor is superior to capital, and deserves much the higher consideration.

Guess who?

really?...one of the 1000's of 9/11 conspiracy stories that have been completely debunked is an example you find "interesting"?
This is your idea of a media? One that gives audience to loons?

Damn near.

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You know, shit like this is why nobody takes you seriously, and why people laugh at you. You constantly make up bullshit like what's quoted above, and then you pathetically fail at backing up your statement.

But, like I said, it's good for a laugh...

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