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Re: Constitutional Law: "To Provide for the Common Defense and General Welfare"
In California, employers are required to maintain a form of fractional reserve account for unemployment purposes.
I think the employee should be allowed to pay half of that (tax) as a form of market based metric and equity since it would also form a more tangible, market-based metric, for at-will employment purposes and any privileges and immunities reserved to the people. |
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Re: Constitutional Law: "To Provide for the Common Defense and General Welfare"
No, you just don't approve of it. The reality is that the government can give U.S. tax dollars to whomever it pleases, as long as there are no strings attached, and sometimes even when there are.
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Re: Constitutional Law: "To Provide for the Common Defense and General Welfare"
Providing for the general Welfare of the United States implies income transfers. What basis is there for anyone complaining about taxes, if they are free to quit and go on unemployment, at-will?
I think the line of reasoning concerning income transfers from people who have more money to people who have less money, is merely rhetoric and propaganda from those of the opposing viewpoint. Any form of Capitalism requires capital to function. Income transfers can ensure that capital circulates. |
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Re: Constitutional Law: "To Provide for the Common Defense and General Welfare"
why are you so hung up on this 'at-will' unemployment? can't you see the obvious problems that might lead to? the system is abused enough as it is...
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Re: Constitutional Law: "To Provide for the Common Defense and General Welfare"
How can there be any problems of abuse, if it conforms to at-will employment doctrine and state at-will employment laws?
The system we have now is prone to abuse. We can all agree with that. |
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Re: Constitutional Law: "To Provide for the Common Defense and General Welfare"
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'splain yoself.
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Re: Constitutional Law: "To Provide for the Common Defense and General Welfare"
It is only abuse-able to the extent at-will employment is abuse-able. How would it be abused, if anyone who claims to be "naturally" unemployed, could collect unemployment compensation?
By not following at-will employment doctrine or state at-will employment laws better, we are enabling the parent of revolution and crime, for "free". |
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Think of the power of being able to give 500 billion dollars a year to whomever you want. |
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Re: Constitutional Law: "To Provide for the Common Defense and General Welfare"
And what have you presented in this thread as evidence?
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You are asking the most obtuse person on Earth to "splain" himself? Good luck. |
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There are also many affirmative restrictions, things that the government is explicity forbidden to do. It's exactly as I said. You say you want limited government, but what you really want is minimal government, and in a modern industrial society that's not possible. It could only work as long as we remained a simple, agrarian, mostly-rural society. As we industrialized, it became increasingly inadequate to hold the nation together, and it failed altogether in the 1860s. The minimal government that Jefferson wanted ceased to exist after (or actually during) the Civil War. It isn't coming back because it can't. |
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Re: Constitutional Law: "To Provide for the Common Defense and General Welfare"
the discussion has yet to approach reality, so evidence has not been a factor
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The limted govt that was the compromise that the Constitution represents was shattered intentionally by Lincoln who never rested in pursuing his Whig goals. The nation was intentionally split assunder, it was no accident of progress, only blind ambition.
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Socialism doesn't create a rising tide that lifts all boats. It drains the lake and teaches the boat riders not to help themselves by rowing. Jesus loves you, allah wants you dead "Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others." Ayn Rand |
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