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Re: Constitutional Law: "To Provide for the Common Defense and General Welfare"
Are you referring to the US Constitution? It did address the major inconsistencies that were a form of States' rights. We were simply not moral and ethical to bear true witness to our own Constitution.
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Re: Constitutional Law: "To Provide for the Common Defense and General Welfare"
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In addition we have this.... James Madison elaborated upon this limitation in a letter to James Robertson: "With respect to the two words "general welfare," I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators. If the words obtained so readily a place in the "Articles of Confederation," and received so little notice in their admission into the present Constitution, and retained for so long a time a silent place in both, the fairest explanation is, that the words, in the alternative of meaning nothing or meaning everything, had the former meaning taken for granted." Jefferson wrote even more on the General Welfare clause, numerous quotes I have posted at this forum before. Some people just don't get it. Our current Federal Government has very few limits, as they can twist almost any policy into fitting the general welfare requirement. Any thinking person knows this is not what the founding fathers intended. If people wish to support welfare and the like, then at least be honest and admit that it is unconstitutional. Then, we can either pass an amendment, or scrap the constitution, as many, many government policies are clearly unconstitutional. |
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Re: Constitutional Law: "To Provide for the Common Defense and General Welfare"
Some of the major socio-economic issues were black and women's suffrage. Both of those were considered States' rights at the time.
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ahh, i see, you are letting the constitution be its own cop-out. you can't seriously be saying that the founders EXPECTED the states to allow black and women suffrage (when the prevailing system was that only white LANDOWNERS mattered anyway in terms of voting)
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you will keep stating that it is your opinion that the spending is only for the 'enumerated powers.' big deal. can we move on?
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Voting and slavery were considered legacy States' rights from the Articles of Confederation. |
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The powers listed after the general powers are specific examples and qualifications of what was meant by the common defense and general welfare (as the scope and basis for authority of the specific powers.) Quote:
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Because, not everything qualifies as the common defense and general welfare. As long as it is for the common Defense and general Welfare of the United States as specifically enumerated by that general power; it can be considered within the scope of the powers delegated to our federal Congress. The explanations and qualifications after the general powers are what constitutes specific examples what was meant by the common defense and general welfare. Quote:
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Re: Constitutional Law: "To Provide for the Common Defense and General Welfare"
The republican doctrine is only credible when there is no homelessness or poverty in republican Right to Work states.
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Re: Constitutional Law: "To Provide for the Common Defense and General Welfare"
Why would we have any simple poverty in any state that provides recourse to an income through Right to Work legislation?
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That there are ANY poor people at all, however, is a problem to be solved by society. |
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Re: Constitutional Law: "To Provide for the Common Defense and General Welfare"
sounds like you are convinced that in 'any free society' poverty is impossible unless someone 'chooses' to be so. care to elaborate on why you think this is an absolute truth?
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Re: Constitutional Law: "To Provide for the Common Defense and General Welfare"
sounds like you are convinced that any presence of poverty is automatically indicative of a flaw in the prevailing social system. care to elaborate on why you consider this an absolute truth?
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