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Its certainly interesting to hear a different perspective.
Thus far we've heard how Allies (except Britain) shot POW's (apparently Nazis didn't?), how the USA is to blame for not invading D-Day further east to prevent soviet control, how German soldiers were merely patriots and not at all aligned with Nazi goals, invading Poland was justified, and how one should fight for their country "right or wrong".
Now I'm possibly being a bit unfair by lumping all of that together out of complete context, but the message is clear. I don't think Thor recognizes that Germany was wrong and did a horrible thing by allowing and supporting Hitler in what he did. Or somehow he's rationalizing that what the German military did was right in spite of the fact that they were supporting Hitler who was wrong. The total logic kind of escapes me.
Furthermore, he's ignoring the very generous rebuilding efforts of the Allies (at least Britain and the US) after the war for West Germany and even the monumental efforts to keep Berlin free.
What other conquerer goes that far out of their way to rebuild the country they just smoked? Granted, it was self-serving because we saw what happened when we DIDN'T do that after WWI. But nevertheless we could have just implemented martial law for the next 50 years as the Soviet Union did.
Furthermore, the USA certainly COULD have conquered the world soon thereafter being the world's only country with Nukes. But we didn't.
I'm thankful for all the people fighting to end this horrible war. I'm thankful for the people in occupied countries who did their best working from the underground (like Poland, France and all the others) and for the soldiers from various countries like the UK, Canada, Russia, Australia, New Zealand, the US and every other country that sent people to end things.
"We've been looking for the enemy for some time now. We've finally found him. We're surrounded. That simplifies things."
“They paid the highest price that a soldier can pay. I bow before you. Germany bows before you.”
Please point out where that is mentioned, as you seem to be opposing that claim.
That is certainly not what I am saying, and it is certainly not the basis for my strong opposition to your general views on these issues.
As for the German army, I do think they were right for fighting for their country. The honor demanded it, and I respect them as soldiers and patriots for their Fatherland.
Last edited by ThorHammer; 12-08-2009 at 01:14 PM. Reason: mistype
The bush administration and bank lobbyists proudly killing our economic system - 2003.
only incapable because the brits can fight and stand. which isn't generally possible without bullets and food.
the callous murder and enslavement of well over a million people is one of those moral questions i generally take a stand on. kinda a rule of thumb.