Thread: Can or should conservatives trust the history of the last 50 years?

Sometimes you only get one side of the story because there is only one side. For example the Turks insist that their side of the Armenian genocide hasn't been told. They exterminated well over a million people. No other side to the story Just as there as no second side of the story that justifies the extermination of the Jews during WWII. Likewise there is no other side to the McCarthy story. He was a villain. period. Coulter is a complete loon!

Originally Posted by pramjockey

It is. When you combine blind ignorance with unrepentant closed-mindedness, there's a very serious problem.

I agree, there's a lot of that around here.

Originally Posted by MeadHallPirate

*greets Michael_Q, the enemy 'o college education*

Not exactly accurate. I'm critical for much of what PASSES for education these days. Indoctrination/ bad. Education/good

See how that works matey?

Originally Posted by redrover

Sometimes you only get one side of the story because there is only one side. For example the Turks insist that their side of the Armenian genocide hasn't been told. They exterminated well over a million people. No other side to the story Just as there as no second side of the story that justifies the extermination of the Jews during WWII. Likewise there is no other side to the McCarthy story. He was a villain. period. Coulter is a complete loon!

That's nothing but a good illustration of my original point.

Originally Posted by Michael_Q

Not exactly accurate. I'm critical for much of what PASSES for education these days. Indoctrination/ bad. Education/good

See how that works matey?

*cheers*

i went to art school, mate. so i guess i sailed free 'o any kinda political indoctrination. i do find it odd that ye only accuse folks of indoctrination when they disagrees with ye. ye never seem to be curious whether or not folks went to college when they sees things yer way.

*nod nod*

- MeadHallPirate

Originally Posted by MeadHallPirate

*cheers*

i went to art school, mate. so i guess i sailed free 'o any kinda political indoctrination. i do find it odd that ye only accuse folks of indoctrination when they disagrees with ye. ye never seem to be curious whether or not folks went to college when they sees things yer way.*nod nod*
- MeadHallPirate

Who could be mad at you, eh? You get the trophy for originality around here!

I think it's probably human nature to approve of people who agree with you, no? I mean, how many times do you find someone in here saying, "oh yes, I was wrong, thank's for straightening me out"?

I think there is a lot of indoctrination that goes on on campus. I have nothing against actual education, just what parades around here and elsewhere, with the pseudo-intellect and the know it all attitude. And yes, they usually don't agree with me.

Don't forget your sea sick pills.

Originally Posted by Michael_Q

I think it's probably human nature to approve of people who agree with you, no? I mean, how many times do you find someone in here saying, "oh yes, I was wrong, thank's for straightening me out"?

*thinks this over*

well, i don't know matey. i know i've said i was wrong on USPO before, i really don't mind it. imma here mostly to learn, not to preach. if i be wrong, then i figure i leave our decks a smarter swabby.

*waves*

- MeadHallPirate

Originally Posted by MeadHallPirate

*thinks this over*

well, i don't know matey. i know i've said i was wrong on USPO before, i really don't mind it. imma here mostly to learn, not to preach. if i be wrong, then i figure i leave our decks a smarter swabby.

*waves*

- MeadHallPirate

Yea, but you're a pirate. We're lowly civilians.

Originally Posted by MeadHallPirate

*cheers*

i went to art school, mate. so i guess i sailed free 'o any kinda political indoctrination. i do find it odd that ye only accuse folks of indoctrination when they disagrees with ye. ye never seem to be curious whether or not folks went to college when they sees things yer way.

*nod nod*

- MeadHallPirate

What Conservatives call indoctrination is pretty obvious if you pick up a elementary school Social Studies text. It's not even a particularly recent development either. When my son, now 30 was in 6th grade, I thumbed through his text book. I was shocked to find 4 pages on Martin Luther King, 1 and a half on Malcolm X and just one paragraph on the US Constitution. In the name of multiculturalism. kids come out of school full of pretty much useless information. While an understanding of the Civil Rights Movement is valuable in understanding US history, a more than cursory knowledge of the Constitution is vital
The public school system is dominated by liberal thinking people of whom, probably 80%-90% can be depended upon to vote for anyone with a D after his name. The good ones don't push their views, but they don't really have to. The text books only provide the information educators want the kids to have.
Private schools may be somewhat more Conservative, but that is limited to usually only the values the Church holds dear. Consider the Catholic Church's stand on abortion. A conservative view, yes, but their stance on AGW is quite Liberal

You can sit there and deny it all night, but you will not be able to come up with a Conservative public primary/secondary education system anywhere in the US. there are some Conservative private universities, but not nearly as many, or with the importance of the Yales and Harvards

I still say there is not always two worthy sides to a story, for example there is school of thought that claims the moon is made of green cheese. Is this a side that must be presented to be fair and balanced? I think not.

If you believe that the Income Tax, Social Security and preventing hospitals from letting the indigent die in their doorways are all Communist Plots to Destroy the Real America, then yes, our schools are indoctrinating our students in the reality of the day. Too bad that's their job now, instead of teaching them that unthinking acceptance of anyone with a shiny enough flag on his lapel is their unswerving obligation under any and all circumstances

Originally Posted by redrover

I still say there is not always two worthy sides to a story, for example there is school of thought that claims the moon is made of green cheese. Is this a side that must be presented to be fair and balanced? I think not.

So Conservative values are green cheese and aren't worthy of consideration? And just who gets to decide what's cheese and what is curriculum? You?

Originally Posted by John Drake

If you believe that the Income Tax, Social Security and preventing hospitals from letting the indigent die in their doorways are all Communist Plots to Destroy the Real America, then yes, our schools are indoctrinating our students in the reality of the day. Too bad that's their job now, instead of teaching them that unthinking acceptance of anyone with a shiny enough flag on his lapel is their unswerving obligation under any and all circumstances

Broke out the Scotch tonight, huh John?