Thread: Can or should conservatives trust the history of the last 50 years?

Originally Posted by pramjockey

Please. You don't know anything about me. Don't presume to think that you do.

But, this isn't about me, now is it?

You use the language, that makes it about you. Who else would it be about?

Originally Posted by bg85

i would probably try to avoid it, although i certainly have in the past. i wouldn't make a habit of using that language around my father either, however.

Very commendable. And WHY would you avoid that language around your mom and dad?

Originally Posted by Michael_Q

An argument can be made that until around 1990 and the advent of talk radio, there was really no voice for the conservative point of view. Until then virtually all media was controlled by the same mentality that is now commonly referred to as “the main stream media”, which is completely dominated by liberalism and the liberal point of view, movies, television, newspapers, magazines, and the educational system. So why would we think we got a balanced report on anything? Liberals controlled everything.

That mentality dominated the halls of academia and those were the people and that was the mentality that wrote the history books that the youth lapped up.

What made me think of this was I wondered if “history” had really given the infamous anti-communist, Senator Joseph McCarthy a fair shake. My entire life I’ve thought that that guy was a psychotic maniac who should have been jailed. That’s how every liberal on the planet would characterize that guy who went after communists.

Then it dawned on me. Wait a minute. The people that have ingrained that opinion in me are the very people he was trying to expose back in the 50’s. There WAS no conservative media to refute the accusations. To this day I have never heard a soul say a good thing about that guy who was concerned that socialism, communism and really, liberalism was infecting our country. But what if there had been a conservative talk radio in those days to tell the other side? So, I started looking and what I found was interesting. There IS another side to the story.

Now it’s no surprise to me that the liberals here will find this posting to be maniacal, and they’ll dismiss it as right wing lunacy. Fine. My question is to the conservatives. Do you really think we got the accurate story regarding Senator McCarthy or for that matter, all of the history from that period when only one ideology was presented? I’m not at all sure we did. Looking at the country to day, with admitted communists right in the White House, some would argue the man was a visionary.

Anyone have anything nice to say about Senator McCarthy?

We didn't get (the accurate story regarding Senator McCarthy or for that matter, all of the history from that period when only one ideology was presented?)

This is changing very quickly due to more sources of information becoming available to the general population.

Will the effects be immediate ? No.

But they will occur faster than many of us beleive they will.

Corruption always destroys itself in the end, and this happens much quicker when everybody can see it.

Originally Posted by Michael_Q

You use the language, that makes it about you. Who else would it be about?

But sir, aren't I using the most proper language?

And aren't I a complete dick?

Originally Posted by Captain Trips

We didn't get (the accurate story regarding Senator McCarthy or for that matter, all of the history from that period when only one ideology was presented?)

This is changing very quickly due to more sources of information becoming available to the general population.

Will the effects be immediate ? No.

But they will occur faster than many of us beleive they will.

Corruption always destroys itself in the end, and this happens much quicker when everybody can see it.

Holy motherfucker.

Captain Trips,

Did you find out what I already knew (or perhaps you already knew it). You understand that more information regarding McCarthy is forthcoming? And yes, it will vindicate ..................................... those that understood that he was a fucking twat.

But, sir, I don't do that justice. Please, yes, they did do another go around, and please avail yourself of it. There's nothing like it. Well, there's nothing like it, when you knew he was a totalitarian piece of shit, but if you knew it, there's nothing to get excited about. It's nothing really.

Originally Posted by Captain Trips

We didn't get (the accurate story regarding Senator McCarthy or for that matter, all of the history from that period when only one ideology was presented?)

This is changing very quickly due to more sources of information becoming available to the general population.

Will the effects be immediate ? No.

But they will occur faster than many of us beleive they will.

Corruption always destroys itself in the end, and this happens much quicker when everybody can see it.

Yes, that's quite true. The advent of the internet and the ability to research things so quickly is blowing the lid off the abomination that has been the way events have been reported and how history has been taught. That's how they got away with it for so many years. College was/is a bastion of liberal revisionist crap and if you didn't go to college you had no prayer of countering any of the stinking way things were reported unless you wanted to spend months in the library and even then it would be pretty tough in cases like McCarthy. But now, it's possible to question all the nonsense those people have been beating everyone over the head with and it only takes a few minutes. McCarthy is only one small example. Just imagine where we'd be with global warming right now if it weren't for the new easy access to information, or "health care" for that matter.

Originally Posted by Rude Boy

Holy motherfucker.

Captain Trips,

Did you find out what I already knew (or perhaps you already knew it). You understand that more information regarding McCarthy is forthcoming? And yes, it will vindicate ..................................... those that understood that he was a fucking twat.
But, sir, I don't do that justice. Please, yes, they did do another go around, and please avail yourself of it. There's nothing like it. Well, there's nothing like it, when you knew he was a totalitarian piece of shit, but if you knew it, there's nothing to get excited about. It's nothing really.

Maybe if you write your responses BEFORE "happy hour"!

Originally Posted by Rude Boy

But sir, aren't I using the most proper language?
And aren't I a complete dick?

Don't be so hard on yourself.

Originally Posted by Rude Boy

Holy motherfucker.

Captain Trips,

Did you find out what I already knew (or perhaps you already knew it). You understand that more information regarding McCarthy is forthcoming? And yes, it will vindicate ..................................... those that understood that he was a fucking twat.

But, sir, I don't do that justice. Please, yes, they did do another go around, and please avail yourself of it. There's nothing like it. Well, there's nothing like it, when you knew he was a totalitarian piece of shit, but if you knew it, there's nothing to get excited about. It's nothing really.

I used to think that using the F word (and many other colorful terms) a lot impressed people too.

It doesn't.

Just a tip

Originally Posted by Captain Trips

I used to think that using the F word (and many other colorful terms) a lot impressed people too. It doesn't. Just a tip

Excellent point. People show their lack of intellect and class when they find it necessary to resort to crude terms when trying to make some point. I'm no prude, I've heard AND used most every word in the book, but not when others might be offended, not in the presence of women or children and not when I'm trying to make some intellectual point. Now even "some" women think they do themselves a service by showing how classless they've become. Call me old fashioned....I like my women to have some character, some class and I always admire someone who can make his point with data, not shock value. Of course nowadays they don't even get the "shock value" out of it, they just look juvenile sort of like the way the word "dude" is so overworked....juvenile.

Originally Posted by Michael_Q

You use the language, that makes it about you. Who else would it be about?

It's about your archaic notions of what women are capable of.

Originally Posted by Michael_Q

Very commendable. And WHY would you avoid that language around your mom and dad?

because they don't like it, and i care about them.

however, if anyone in internet land has a problem with the language i choose to use, i don't really give a shit.

Originally Posted by pramjockey

It's about your archaic notions of what women are capable of.

My notions aren't "archaic". "Class" is a time honored quality. It has nothing to do with "what women are capable of", it has to do with how much respect you have for those around you.