Re: An Islamic history of Europe - a rarely told story
No? Certain scientific theories that the church opposed for whatever (unscientific) reasons, were considerably hindered and delayed by the church. The negative impact might have been even more extreme by radical Islam and this even a factor until today even though even salafist realms like Saudi Arabia are starting to overcome scientific retardation by religious zealots.
Originally Posted by darth omar
Well, like I said, there was never a time when this country wasn’t religious and if anything, it is getting less so. Though Europe is ‘post-Christian’ by comparison. But I don’t see us getting to that point here.
Europe is not homogeneous either. The Czechs might be the only ones that are truly post-religious. Religious people there are a minority like Atheists in the US. This development has its roots in the Austrian monarchy where Vienna lead a brutal fight against protestantism and forced catholicism onto them which lead to the early rejection of religion as a whole and when the communists came they found open hands for their atheist views. Unlike Poland for example. That was as communist as Czechoslovakia but it remained a catholic stronghold and is one to this day, for European standards at least.
In Austria the secularisation is progressing rapidly. Only a few decades ago it was still considered another catholic stronghold. A heritage from the monarchy. But Austrians are almost pushed out of the church due to scandals and the refusal of the Vatican to compromise with the rather liberal view of the Austrian catholics. Actually there is a silent priest revolution going on in Austria currently and the Vatican does not dare to crush it (yet) because it fears the public outleash if it did.
At the same time, orthodox Eastern Europe sees a rebirth of the orthodox church again. But this is also because there the communist persecution and opposition against the church was never fully supported by the people.
Because, radical Christian movements are currently fringe developments. That is why I largely agree, with one major exception: life sciences. This is rather obvious, Israel for example has a big advantage over Christian countries where the religious views are met by legislation when it comes to important areas of research in life sciences.
At any rate, I think it’s safe to conclude that Christianity poses no apparent obstacle to the development of science and technology whereas Islam apparently does.
Secret laws, secret courts, secret rulings, secret prisons.
Rule of law?