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Old 08-19-2006
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Is Neoconservatism a Jewish movement?

Thinking About Neoconservatism

By Kevin MacDonald



Over the last year, there’s been a torrent of articles on neoconservatism raising (usually implicitly) some vexing issues: Are neoconservatives different from other conservatives? Is neoconservatism a Jewish movement? Is it “anti-Semitic” to say so?

The dispute between the neocons and more traditional conservatives — “paleoconservatives” — is especially important because the latter now find themselves on the outside, looking in on the conservative power structure.

Hopefully, some of the venom has been taken out of this argument by the remarkable recent article by neoconservative “godfather” Irving Kristol (“The Neoconservative Persuasion,” Weekly Standard, August 25, 2003). With commendable frankness, Kristol admitted that

“the historical task and political purpose of neoconservatism would seem to be this: to convert the Republican party, and American conservatism in general, against their respective wills, into a new kind of conservative politics suitable to governing a modern democracy.”

And, equally frankly, Kristol eschewed any attempt to justify U.S. support for Israel in terms of American national interest:

“[L]arge nations, whose identity is ideological, like the Soviet Union of yesteryear and the United States of today, inevitably have ideological interests in addition to more material concerns… That is why we feel it necessary to defend Israel today, when its survival is threatened. No complicated geopolitical calculations of national interest are necessary.”

If the US is an “ideological” nation, this can only mean that the motivations of neoconservative ideology are a legitimate subject of intellectual inquiry.

For example, it is certainly true that the neocons’ foreign policy fits well with a plausible version of Jewish interests, but is arguably only tenuously related to the interests of the U.S. Also, neocons oppose the isolationism of important sections of traditional American conservatism. And neocon attitudes on issues like race and immigration differ profoundly from those of traditional mainstream conservatives — but resemble closely the common attitudes of the wider American Jewish community.

Count me among those who accept that the Jewish commitment of leading neoconservatives has become a critical influence on U.S. policies, and that the effectiveness of the neoconservatives is greatly enhanced by their alliance with the organized Jewish community. In my opinion, this conclusion is based on solid data and reasonable inferences. But like any other theory, of course, it is subject to reasoned discussion and disproof.

We shouldn’t be surprised by the importance of ethnicity in human affairs. Nor should we be intimidated by charges of anti-Semitism. We should be able to discuss these issues openly and honestly. This is a practical matter, not a moral one.

Ethnic politics in the U.S. are certainly not limited to Jewish activism. They are an absolutely normal phenomenon throughout history and around the world.

But for well over half a century, with rare exceptions, Jewish influence has been off-limits for rational discussion. Now, however, as the U.S. acquires an empire in the Middle East, this ban must inevitably fall away.

My views on these issues are shaped by my research on several other influential Jewish-dominated intellectual and political movements, including the Boasian school of anthropology, Freudian psychoanalysis, the Frankfurt School of Social Research, Marxism and several other movements of the radical left, as well as the movement to change the ethnic balance of the United States by allowing mass, non-traditional immigration.

My conclusion: Contemporary neoconservatism fits into the general pattern of Jewish intellectual and political activism I have identified in my work.

I am not, of course, saying that all Jews, or even most Jews, supported these movements. Nor did these movements work in concert: some were intensely hostile to one another. I am saying, however, that the key figures in these movements identified in some sense as Jews and viewed their participation as in some sense advancing Jewish interests.

In all of the Jewish intellectual and political movements I studied, there is a strong Jewish identity among the core figures. All center on charismatic Jewish leaders—people such as Boas, Trotsky and Freud— who are revered as messianic, god-like figures.

Neoconservatism’s key founders trace their intellectual ancestry to the “New York Intellectuals,” a group that originated as followers of Trotskyite theoretician Max Schactman in the 1930s and centered around influential journals like Partisan Review and Commentary (which is in fact published by the American Jewish Committee). In the case of neoconservatives, their early identity as radical leftist disciples shifted as there began to be evidence of anti-Semitism in the Soviet Union. Key figures in leading them out of the political left were philosopher Sidney Hook and Elliot Cohen, editor of Commentary. Such men as Hook, Irving Kristol, Norman Podhoretz, Nathan Glazer and Seymour Martin Lipset, were deeply concerned about anti-Semitism and other Jewish issues. Many of them worked closely with Jewish activist organizations. After the 1950s, they became increasingly disenchanted with leftism. Their overriding concern was the welfare of Israel.

By the 1970s, the neocons were taking an aggressive stance against the Soviet Union, which they saw as a bastion of anti-Semitism and opposition to Israel. Richard Perle was the prime organizer of Congressional support for the 1974 Jackson-Vanik Amendment which angered the Soviet Union by linking bilateral trade issues to freedom of emigration, primarily of Jews from the Soviet Union to Israel and the United States.

Current key leaders include an astonishing number of individuals well placed to influence the Bush Administration: (Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, Douglas Feith, I. Lewis Libby, Elliott Abrams, David Wurmser, Abram Shulsky), interlocking media and thinktankdom (Bill Kristol, Michael Ledeen, Stephen Bryen, John Podhoretz, Daniel Pipes), and the academic world (Richard Pipes, Donald Kagan).

As the neoconservatives lost faith in radical leftism, several key neocons became attracted to the writings of Leo Strauss, a classicist and political philosopher at the University of Chicago. Strauss had a very strong Jewish identity and viewed his philosophy as a means of ensuring Jewish survival in the Diaspora. As he put it in a 1962 Hillel House lecture, later republished in Leo Strauss: Political Philosopher and Jewish Thinker:

“I believe I can say, without any exaggeration, that since a very, very early time the main theme of my reflections has been what is called the ‘Jewish ‘Question’.”

Strauss has become a cult figure—the quintessential rabbinical guru with devoted disciples.

While Strauss and his followers have come to be known as neoconservatives — and have even claimed to be simply “conservatives”— there is nothing conservative about their goals. This is most obviously the case in foreign policy, where they are attempting to rearrange the entire Middle East in the interests of Israel. But it is also the case with domestic policy, where acceptance of rule by an aristocratic elite would require a complete political transformation. Strauss believed that this aristocracy would be compatible with Jewish interests.

Strauss notoriously described the need for an external exoteric language directed at outsiders, and an internal esoteric language directed at ingroup members. In other words, the masses had to be deceived.

But actually this is a general feature of the movements I have studied. They invariably frame issues in language that appeals to non-Jews, rather than explicitly in terms of Jewish interests. The most common rhetoric used by Jewish intellectual and political movements has been the language of moral universalism and the language of science—languages that appeal to the educated elites of the modern Western world. But beneath the rhetoric it is easy to find statements expressing the Jewish agendas of the principal actors.

For example, anthropologists under the leadership of Boas viewed their crusade against the concept of “race” as, in turn, combating anti-Semitism. They also saw their theories as promoting the ideology of cultural pluralism, which served perceived Jewish interests because the U.S. would be seen as consisting of many co-equal cultures rather than as a European Christian society.

Similarly, psychoanalysts commonly used their theories to portray anti-Jewish attitudes as symptoms of psychiatric disorder.

Conversely, the earlier generation of American Jewish Trotskyites ignored the horrors of the Soviet Union until the emergence there of state-sponsored anti-Semitism.

Neoconservatives have certainly appealed to American patriotic platitudes in advocating war throughout the Middle East—gushing about spreading American democracy and freedom to the area, while leaving unmentioned their own strong ethnic ties and family links to Israel.

Michael Lind has called attention to the neoconservatives’ “odd bursts of ideological enthusiasm for ‘democracy’”— odd because these calls for democracy and freedom throughout the Middle East are also coupled with support for the Likud Party and other like-minded groups in Israel that are driven by a vision of an ethnocentric, expansionist Israel that, to outside observers at least, bears an unmistakable (albeit unmentionable) resemblance to apartheid South Africa.

These inconsistencies of the neoconservatives are not odd or surprising. The Straussian idea is to achieve the aims of the elite ingroup by using language designed for mass appeal. War for “democracy and freedom” sells much better than a war explicitly aimed at achieving the foreign policy goals of Israel.

Neoconservatives have responded to charges that their foreign policy has a Jewish agenda by labeling any such analysis as “anti-Semitic.” Similar charges have been echoed by powerful activist Jewish organizations like the ADL and the Simon Wiesenthal Center.

But at the very least, Jewish neoconservatives like Paul Wolfowitz, who were deeply involved in pushing for the war in Iraq, should frankly discuss how their close family and personal ties to Israel have affected their attitudes on US foreign policy in the Middle East.

Wolfowitz, however, has refused to discuss this issue beyond terming such suggestions “disgraceful.”

A common argument is that neoconservatism is not Jewish because of the presence of various non-Jews amongst their ranks.

But in fact, the ability to recruit prominent non-Jews, while nevertheless maintaining a Jewish core and a commitment to Jewish interests, has been a hallmark—perhaps the key hallmark—of influential Jewish intellectual and political movements throughout the 20th century. Freud commented famously on the need for a non-Jew to represent psychoanalysis, a role played by Ernest Jones and C. G. Jung. Margaret Mead and Ruth Benedict were the public face of Boasian anthropology. And, although Jews represented over half the membership of both the Socialist Party and the Communist Party USA at various times, neither party ever had Jews as presidential candidates and no Jew held the top position in the Communist Party USA after 1929.

In all the Jewish intellectual and political movements I reviewed, non-Jews have been accepted and given highly-visible roles. Today, those roles are played most prominently by Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld whose ties with neoconservatives go back many years. It makes excellent psychological sense to have the spokespeople for any movement resemble the people they are trying to convince.

In fact, neoconservatism is rather unusual in the degree to which policy formulation — as opposed to implementation — is so predominantly Jewish. Perhaps this reflects U.S. conditions in the late 20th century.

All the Jewish intellectual and political movements I studied were typified by a deep sense of orthodoxy—a sense of “us versus them.” Dissenters are expelled, usually amid character assassination and other recriminations.

This has certainly been a feature of the neocon movement. The classic recent example of this “We vs. They” world is David Frum’s attack on “unpatriotic conservatives” as anti-Semites. Any conservative who opposes the Iraq war as contrary to U.S. interests and who notes the pro-Israeli motivation of many of the important players, is not to be argued with, but eradicated. “We turn our backs on them.” This is not the spirit out of which the Anglo-American parliamentary tradition was developed, and in fact was not endorsed by other non-Jewish pro-war conservatives.

Jewish intellectual and political movements have typically had ready access to prestigious mainstream media channels, and this is certainly true for the neocons. The anchoring by the Washington Post of the columns of Charles Krauthammer and Robert Kagan and by the New York Times of William Safire's illustrates this. But probably more important recently has been the invariable summoning of neoconservatives to represent the “conservative” line on the TV Networks. Is it unreasonable to suppose that this may be somewhat influenced by the famously heavy Jewish role in these operations?

Immigration policy provides a valuable acid test for the proposition that neoconservatism is actually a vehicle for perceived Jewish ethnic interests. I believe I have been able to demonstrate that pro-immigration elements in American public life have, for over a century, been largely led, funded, energized and organized by the Jewish community [PDF file]. American Jews have taken this line, with a few isolated exceptions, because they have believed, as Leonard S. Glickman, president and CEO of the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society, has bluntly stated, “The more diverse American society is the safer [Jews] are.” Having run out of Russian Jews, the HIAS is now deeply involved in recruiting refugees from Africa.

When, in the middle 1990s an immigration reform movement arose amongst American conservatives, the reaction of the neoconservatives ranged from cold to hostile. No positive voice was permitted on the Op-Ed page of the Wall Street Journal, by then a neoconservative domain. (Perhaps significantly, a more recent exception has been a relatively favorable review of the anti-illegal immigration book Mexifornia— whose author, the military historian Victor Davis Hanson, has distinguished himself by the extreme hawkishness of his views on the Middle East.) The main vehicle of immigration reform sentiment, National Review, once a bastion of traditional conservative thought, was quite quickly captured by neoconservatives and its opposition to immigration reduced to nominal.

Prior to the post-9/11 U.S. invasion of the Middle East, this suppression of the immigration reform impulse among conservatives was probably the single most important contribution of the neoconservatives to the course of U.S. history.

It may yet prove to be the most disastrous.

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Is Neoconservatism a Jewish movement?

The article above is written by Prof. Kevin MacDonald who teaches at at California State University-Long Beach. It's a long but excellent read, one of the most detailed scientific articles I have across in a long time.

I don't know if you have noticed, but today's neoconservative movement has drifted from traditional conservatism so much that it hardly resembles traditional conservatism and is the exact opposite of it in many ways.

But Prof. Kevin MacDonald explains this in a superb way by focussing on the people behind the movement. When closely analyzed it becomes clear that the neoconservative movement is basically traditional Jewish liberalism (for instance open borders (neocons are all for open borders except for Arabs), but with a much more aggressive foreign policy when it comes to defending Israel.

Anyways, I recommend the article and would like to hear your views on the subject.

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Re: Is Neoconservatism a Jewish movement?

So what? Or who cares?

Neoconservativism sucks on its own merits. I don't need to be an anti-semite to oppose neoconservativism.
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Re: Is Neoconservatism a Jewish movement?

I agree: so what?

Karl Marx was a Jew too. What does it matter what ethnicity or religion ideologists have? The religious teachings in the childhood may affect the development of ideas in adulthood, but that is more of an academic interest when researching the origins of the ideology than anything else.
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Re: Is Neoconservatism a Jewish movement?

And most importantly, was the picture really necessary?
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Karl Marx was a Jew too.
Not really, he was from a Jewish family. Both of his parents were children of Rabbis, but his father renounced Judiasm. Karl Marx was actually baptized Lutheran when he was around six years old, though this was more of a political move on behalf of his father. He was never taught Jewish values, and, oddly enough, he used the term "Dirty Jew" frequently as an insult against authors that he didn't like. If he especially didn't like them he called them a "Dirty Jew of Negro blood." But that's really neither here nor there.

As far as the OP is concerned, what difference does it make? If you can tell me why I should care, then I might have something more to say, but until then I don't see how it's important.
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I agree: so what?

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Au contraire mon fraire, it is of great importance to not only analyse the ideology, but also its creator: the ideologue, for only when both are kosher, can we truly speak of a decent, sincere, productive ideology.

Christianity and Islam for instance must not be analyzed by merely reading their holy writ, but also by analyzing the historical individuals called Jeshua of Nazareth and Muhammed son of Abdullah. With all due respect, I consider this to be self evident.

Of course, because the people analyzed in the opening article happen to be Jews, this logical step becomes much harder (less political correct). Sure, we can study both ideology and ideologue when studying Marxism, Christianity, Islam and Fascism, but when it comes to Jews, we are told that it’s unscientific to do so. The Jews are apparently incapable of having a hidden agenda, unlike all the rest of the people on this earth of ours. I will not accept this obvious lie.

Neo-conservatism by itself is a far right Zionist deception-ideology, in which Jewish interests are wrapped in such a way that they appear to represent the interests of the broad non-Jewish population.

Three of the most prominent Jewish neocons implicitly wrote in a 1996 paper called “A clean break”:

“We need Saddam to disappear because his regime and presence represent a threat for Israel.”

No matter how hard they tried, they couldn’t sell this to the American public, so they successfully altered their twisted marketing strategy and changed it in:

“We need Saddam to go because he represents a danger to America.”

This is how the game works. And the catastrophic result of this immoral deception game is what we are witnessing today. If anyone is remotely interested in this subject I advice you to read Dr. Duke’s excellent essay: “No War For Israel.”
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So what? Or who cares?

Neoconservativism sucks on its own merits. I don't need to be an anti-semite to oppose neoconservativism.

Of course you are right, but by analogy you do not need to be an anti-Semite to subscribe to Dr. MacDonald's thesis, who by the way is an often praised researcher, apart from an excellent college professor.
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When, in the middle 1990s an immigration reform movement arose amongst American conservatives, the reaction of the neoconservatives ranged from cold to hostile
Are you sure about this? I know I have read a number of Krauthammer articles that seemed fairly anti-illegal immigration to me.
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Is neoconservatism a jewish movement? in short .. the answer is no.
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Is neoconservatism a jewish movement? in short .. the answer is no.

Consider me not convinced.
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Are you sure about this? I know I have read a number of Krauthammer articles that seemed fairly anti-illegal immigration to me.
You are right about Krauthammer, well more or less at least.

But Dr. MacDonald is reffering to the broad neocon community which seems to have no opinion on internal issues, but instead has a very vocal opinion when it comes to foreign (Middle East) policy.
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Re: Is Neoconservatism a Jewish movement?

Along with many others, I fail to see the point of the question.

If you have a problem with neoconservative policy and belief, debate the policy and belief directly.

What possible difference would it make if it were a "Jewish movement" or not? Good policy is good policy. Bad policy is policy. The race of the people who formulated it is irrelevent.
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Consider me not convinced.
well, I know that Jews are reputed to be very smart - but do you think then that people like Cheney and Rumsfield are not smart?

I happen to think such people are incredibly intelligent (No matter how much I disagree with them) and are unlikely to be used by some Jewish conspiracy.

Nor do I think they are wannabe Jews.

I think they know full well what game they are playing - and have for a long, long time. And they are no servant of any ethnic group. If Israel is using them - I suspect that they also use Israel.
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Along with many others, I fail to see the point of the question.
Simple : Bart wants to convince everyone that :
Everything that has even the remotest tangent of a relation to anything that might be conceived as Jewish is bad bad bad bad bad.
And/Or:
Everything that could possibly be perceived as bad MUST necessarily be masterminded by Jews.

For a reference to this mindset : see Mein Kampf by the German author A.Hitler.
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Simple : Bart wants to convince everyone that :
Everything that has even the remotest tangent of a relation to anything that might be conceived as Jewish is bad bad bad bad bad.
And/Or:
Everything that could possibly be perceived as bad MUST necessarily be masterminded by Jews.
Is this true Bart?

If so, it really has no place in intelligent discussion. You need to come up with something a little better than conspiracy theory to support these assertions.

I would suggest you consider the questions I asked ... if Rummy and Cheney (and others) are so stupid as to be pawns in a Jewish plot where is your evidence?

if they are Jewish wannabes what possible gain is there for them?

... is it some kind of wanting to be in with the in crowd ... as if they are uncool highschool kids who will not get a date to the prom unless accepted by the Jews ... or is it something a little deeper than that which drives their need to belong with the Jews who Rule the World?
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