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Old 02-27-2007
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Re: Native Americans seek to outlaw the 'S-word'

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And I find Burger King to be offensive. We have a Democracy, and are no longer under the Royalist rule.

What? We beat the British out of here and we have to contend with the word "KING" on ever street corner in America?

Sick.
What about the Dairy Queen? Do you find that to be offensive?
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goddamn manners.
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Its a Free speech Violation. Just like 2 Tampa Bay Bucs fans sued the Buccaneers when ushers removed them from the stadium for saying FUCK Repeatly.And Now Malcom Glazier Settled with those fans by offering free season tickets to bucs games for life! And he says he will fire those employees who ejected those fans.
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Steveox, refraining from saying racist, belittling, rude remarks to others is not a violation of your freedom of speech.

This country needs some goddamn manners.

I don't think you read your own post. The S word they are referring to is squaw, not shit.
Sam, if you think this, why do you continue to use the F word. Is that not also bad manners???
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What about the Dairy Queen? Do you find that to be offensive?
Yup, I'm sure Gays don't like that.
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We're not talking about refraining, we're talking about outlawing words. I think the thought of it is perverse. We have socialists trying to do the same in this country...

We're not talking about outlawing words, we're talking about changing names. What the writer of the article was too polite to include is that the direct translation of squaw is 'cunt'.

In AZ, Squaw peak was just changed to Piestowa peak - after Lori Piestowa (a Hopi woman who died saving her brigade in the Iraq war). Can't say that I object.

Yeah, PC can get obnoxious and the culture of complaint and victimization is a pain - but it exists on all sides of the board. A little more common courtesy and we may actually get something done besides b*tching.
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Dang, here I thought there were 11 creeks, bluffs and canyons in Idaho with 'shit' in their names.
What's with the Idaho hate here? Shit Bluff happens to be one of my favorite grouse-hunting areas. And Shit creek is famous for its brown trout!

The Shoshone are an interesting people, and Salmon is a lovely place to camp. And Sacajawea was Shoshone.

This, from your resident Idahoan.
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We're not talking about outlawing words, we're talking about changing names. What the writer of the article was too polite to include is that the direct translation of squaw is 'cunt'.

In AZ, Squaw peak was just changed to Piestowa peak - after Lori Piestowa (a Hopi woman who died saving her brigade in the Iraq war). Can't say that I object.

Yeah, PC can get obnoxious and the culture of complaint and victimization is a pain - but it exists on all sides of the board. A little more common courtesy and we may actually get something done besides b*tching.
Well, your translation of the word "squaw" is not considered correct by everybody. If it did, I would say the wish to rename places would be another matter.

According to Wikipedia the meaning is "young woman":

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Squaw is an English loan-word whose present meaning is "(an) American Indian woman", regardless of tribe. The word was borrowed from Algonquian words meaning "young woman".

The English term is now considered offensive, partly but not entirely because of incorrect claims that it comes from a word meaning vagina.
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Well, I had absolutely no luck in getting Cracker Barrel to change their name, but I wish the Native Americans the best in their attempts.
Damn right!

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And I find Burger King to be offensive. We have a Democracy, and are no longer under the Royalist rule.

What? We beat the British out of here and we have to contend with the word "KING" on ever street corner in America?

Sick.


Yes, and the northern neighbour of the USA, the only country with an open border to the USA, is not a democracy. How can you allow the border to a nation which is not a democracy to be so open? People like Jim Carrey, Dan Akroyd, William Shatner, and Paul Shaffer must be working in the USA because they have fled from their undemocratic native country.

Neither is the UK, America's strongest and most reliable ally, a democracy, nor Japan, Australia, or Denmark, which all participated in the war in Iraq. Maybe the USA should invade them next?

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Well, your translation of the word "squaw" is not considered correct by everybody. If it did, I would say the wish to rename places would be another matter.

According to Wikipedia the meaning is "young woman":

According to the natives I know, the translation is cunt. While it does refer to women (young and old) it refers to that which makes them women in the physical sense. I forget what tribal language it was originally, but it spread through anglo usage. Here it is - Algonquin.

Italian

patata
topa
passera
bernarda
sorca

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almeja (literally, "clam")
cajeta
choro
chocho
chochita mia ("my little pussy")
chorito
concha (Latin American Spanish)
zorra
venocha
ascona (Galician Spain)
papo (Venezuelan)
zanja
boba (child's term)
vaina (Dominican Republic)

French

chatte (literally translates to "female cat")
moule (literally translates to "mussel")

Japanese

asoko (literally translates to "that place over there")
manko, omanko (derogatory slang)

Russian

pizda
pizdenka

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boji (Korean)
ihir (Arabic)
tenki (Farsi)
yoni (Hindi)
umuswati (Kinyarwanda)
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Re: Native Americans seek to outlaw the 'S-word'

No words should be 'outlawed', if that is actually the case. If some hillbilly is calling someone a disgusting word, lead by example and don't be that way,... raise your kids not to be that way. Just don't ram your beliefs down anybody's throat.
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Steveox, refraining from saying racist, belittling, rude remarks to others is not a violation of your freedom of speech.

This country needs some goddamn manners.

I don't think you read your own post. The S word they are referring to is squaw, not shit.
People in the United States are free to say anything they want so long as it doesn't directly threaten the safety of another citizen. (ie a threat,or yelling fire in a crowded theatre). That is called freedom of speech and it has it's very own amendment. People in the United States do not have a right to be free from being offended.
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As they are their creeks, bluffs and canyons I can't see why anybody would object.
Yes those things do belong to them but only because they are American citizens.
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You first.

The irony is just so sweet.

Emphasized for Sam's benefit. (So she will understand)

/chuckle
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