Does Islam create a criminal mentality? Does Bhuddism, Hinduism, Peganism or Christianity? If yes, is it just that you have a problem with faith? If no, exactly what makes Judaism stand out from other religions as criminal?

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Si modo : Please continue to note my unwillingness to take a thread so far off topic with a discussion

Actually, what establishes right from wrong is at the core of this discussion, which is what constitutes criminality.

All Abrahamic Religions whether the derivation being it Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism or Nazism, are only schisms of the original illegitimate patriarchal structure of control. When you build a dogma on a foundation that is a fraud, all that follows is just a continuation of the same fraud (criminality).

The system of control used today of "Government said" is the same fraud perpetrated from the original shit stained criminal mentality.

Who is a Jew?

You are a Jew (criminal), if you are complicit in the manifestation of Judaism, by promoting, defending and manifesting, the Collectivist Jewish Criminal Mentality.

You are a Jew (criminal), if you believe you have the right to have dominion over another, by using the fraud of "God said" to control others.

You are a Jew (criminal), if you promote a political system of collective control for the benefit of the controllers, camouflaged as "for the benefit of the group".

You are a Jew (criminal), if you claim to know what's best for everyone else.
You are a Jew (criminal), if you are a politician.
You are a Jew (criminal), if you are a preacher.
You are a Jew (criminal), if you promote the lie "one is born a Jew", the concept of race.
You are a Jew (criminal), if you uses the politics of human value to force your value system onto another, by taking away one's freedom of choice.

The main purpose of the collectivist paradigm is to create a political system, by using collective power in order to get another to do, what they could never do individually, which is a direct violation of one's individual rights and sovereignty, a criminal act.

You are a Jew (criminal), if you believe the Ten Commandments establishes right from wrong.

The biggest hoax foisted on humanity was the Ten Commandments.

Starting with "You shall have no other gods but me." was the creation of the collectivist paradigm of thought control. The easiest way to stunt one's thinking is by telling them you have all the answers and not to challenge your thinking. That is the objective of collective control, where you are to serve me (through the sock puppet) not your own objectives, creating a parasitic relationship. In the framework of "one is born a Jew" and that there is only one God that talks to his chosen people, the Jews, is nothing more than a canard to use useful idiots as cannon fodder for the objective of the collective control.

Children of Israel is no pun, but the reality of a child's mentality that wants to live in perpetual childhood. If one does not have control of one's actions, they can not be responsible for those actions. If one does not have responsibility for one's actions, one can not have control of their actions. The most important rule according to Moses was a direct violation of one's individual rights, the basic tenet of right from wrong. A violation against adulthood.

"You shall not take the name of the Lord, your God, in vain" is nothing but censorship. When one goes against the state religion "Kill the messenger, when you can't refuse the message!" One can see this Jewish mentality is the same that calls someone a terrorist, that goes against the collectivist paradigm.

"Honor thy Father and thy Mother." is nothing more than to accept unquestioned authority and take orders from your superior based on the collectivist paradigm. Do what they say, not because they are right, but only because they are higher up in the collectivist paradigm. Do you honor one's parents if they are criminals?

"You shall not commit adultery" is nothing more than, it is wrong for a Jew to have sex with a Non-Jew.

In order of importance, it takes the Ten Commandments of six subjective rules to finally come to an objective rule that is a violation of one's rights. "You shall not murder." It is wrong to murder, not because each has a right to live, but because the Bible God said it is wrong. Wrongs are not seen as infringements of individual rights, but as violations of God’s commands. The Bible nowhere speaks of "individual rights."

The bible is nothing more than a operations manual for criminality, today manifested in "Government said". Moses was nothing more than a sociopathic tyrant criminal creating the Jewish Mentality of sociopathic tyrant criminals.

No matter what religion one professes to believe in, or what code of law is considered just, the most basic criteria for what can be considered right or wrong is, no one has the right or authority to violate another's individual rights and individual sovereignty. No one on earth is god, so no one has authority or right to control another. A violation of one's individual rights and individual sovereignty, is a crime against humanity.

A criminal is a Jew.

Jennifer, by your definition of what constitutes "a criminal" any form or entity of public control or governance is criminal.

The allegations you make againt Judaism can be made equally against any religion or political system you care to name. By your standard democracy is criminal, so is elementary education, so is parenting.

Back to the Jews...

The Romans persecuted the Jews, and the Romans weren't just as controling as the Jews. They were actually so much more commanding that their dominance over the individual and state, and their legacy of administrative state control puts Judaisms' to shame.

Same for the Nazis, and the Babylonians, and the Egyptians, and the Christians, and any other -ism or it that ever exercised a mastery over Jewry.

You can't compare Judaism with any of those systems or states. They were so much more powerful that they dominated and controlled the Jews in every concievable way. Some went so far as to literally undertake the extermination of the Jews as a race.

They all "believed they had the right to have dominion over others, several of them by using the fraud of "God said" to control others".

They all "promoted a political system of collective control for the benefit of the controllers".

They all "claimed to know what's best for everyone else".

Many were, or were ideologically represented by, "politicans or preachers" and the "concept of race" was central to several of their systems of control.

All "used the politics of human value to force their value system onto another, by taking away one's freedom of choice".

These are the criteria under which you label the Jews as "criminals".

But by those same criteria every empire, nation, state, religion, or movement that ever persecuted the Jews was infinately more culpable of criminality.

So the question remains - why were the Jews persecuted.

(Aside from your logic being so circular as to defy reason you don't even make a convincing case against the Jews in defense of your preposterous thesis. You've convinced me of nothing other than your own illogical anti-semitisim and profound ignorance.)

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soot : They all

Because they are all Jews manifesting the collectivist criminal mentality. The actual label of distinction you choose to use, is irrelevant.

One either upholds a system of control that manifests individual rights and sovereignty (adulthood) or they manifest collectivism (criminality), because the two concepts are mutually exclusive.

Whatever criminalism you see applies to the Jews alone, according to your posts. The fact that you apply this criminalism you see to only the Jews, is quite telling of your position.

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If you want a discussion of the difference between right and wrong, then start a thread in the Philosophical Issues subforum on that.

As far as offering any supporting position for your main thesis that Jews are criminals because Judaism promotes criminality, you would first have to demonstrate that Judaism promotes/teaches criminality. You've been asked to do that several times. Each time you attempt to do that, you use a tautology. You've done it again as demonstrated in the above quote. Fundamentally you keep saying the same thing: Judaism promotes criminality because the dogma continues criminality. If you were interested in telling your "truth" because you are a "truth seeker", you would provide some support for you claim other than your belief. You have yet to do that, other than useless tautologies.

Seriously, your post is filled with such useless tautologies. Here's just one of many: Paraphrased, "Jews are criminals because they practice Judaism. Judaism is criminal because its Judaism, and Judaism is criminal." Capitalizing something does not make it a "truth".

You'll have to do much better than that.

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Si modo : You've been asked to do that several times.

And I have already stated it several times, but you have chose to ignore it, which is why your intellectual dishonesty has already been duly noted.

If you think fraud is not criminality, then you have no concept of right from wrong, which is no surprise, because anyone believing in a sock puppet as a legitimate system of control, has no concept of reality.

It seems useless to ask for supporting information from one who uses tautologies alone - and keeps on doing it. But I do see you have added ad hominems to your "argument". You're batting a thousand on your use of fallacies so far.

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Claiming that stating fact, is somehow an ad hominem attfck, is the same denial of one's actions are the manifestations of one's beliefs.

Only a criminal thinks perpetrating criminality, becomes an unjustified ad hominem attack when pointed out as wrong doing.

Woohoo! Now we can add strawmen to your list of fallacies. (And, let's get this straight: You aclling me intellectually dishonest is quite the ad hominem.) Now, we have a total of three fallcies you have tried to use with me, alone. Can you make it four unique ones (I've stopped counting your repeated tautologies)?

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There is a song called The Exodus Song. It starts out 'this land is mine, God gave this land to me.'

Only problem is, in the middle east both sides feel that way.

the persecution of the jews began with the jewish uprising against rome, continued under the roman catholic churchand becuse one of the few opportunities open to them, banking` `ususry` they became tagets for medieval kings to borrow money then kill them off rather than paying them back. the only other group who used banking in that time, were the templars and look what happened to them

Wow, that is one of the most ignorant, bigoted, and flat out stupid statements I have ever seen on this forum.

Some people are just losers, and rather than blame their failings (whether they be fundamental lack of capability, or lack of good sense in behaving in a responsible, productive manner) on themselves, they pathetically and pathologically seek out scape goats.

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Taking what a Jew is, out of context (the manifestation of Judaism), is the most ignorant, bigoted, and flat out stupid position anyone could take.

A Jew is a criminal, because Judaism manifests criminality. A Jew is persecuted because of their actions by manifesting Judaism, plain and simple.

So full of pathological and irrational hate, it really is sad.

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