Jenifer:

Words can mean whatever we want them to mean, but one must question whether a definition is useful or not. Your redefinition of the word "Jew" is not particularly useful and is conducive to confusion and misunderstanding.

Ordinarily, one does not call someone a "Jew" unless he or she is either a believer, not in just any old Abrahamic religion, but in a specific one -- the oldest of them -- or else a member of the familial or ethnic group of the same name. Or both. A Christian or Muslim is a practitioner of an Abrahamic religion, but to call a Christian or Muslim a Jew on that basis is to deprive the word of essential meaning.

While I understand your criticism of the Abrahamic religions, your conflating them with patriarchy or authoritarianism generally is unwarranted. Patriarchy has roots going back at least to the beginning of civilization, and is therefore older than Judaism. Authoritarianism is perhaps even older than patriarchy. Again, you are expanding the limits of what constitutes a Jew to the point of rendering the concept meaningless. I cannot really understand why this is of any value.

The Jew™ hates a thinker precisely for the same reason a robber dislikes a sheriff, or a thief despises the prosecuting witness. Tyranny likes courtiers, flatterers, followers, fawners, and superstition wants believers, disciples, zealots, hypocrites, and subscribers. Collectivism demands worship -- the very thing that no one should give to any being, human or perceived divine. To worship another is to degrade one's self. Worship is awe and dread and vague fear and blind hope. It is the spirit of worship that elevates the one and degrades the many; that builds palaces for robbers, erects monuments to crime, and forges manacles even for its own hands. The spirit of worship is the spirit of tyranny. The worshiper always regrets that he is not the worshiped. We should all remember that the intellect has no knees, and that whatever the attitude of the body may be, the brave soul is always found erect. Whoever worships, abdicates. Whoever believes at the command of power, tramples his own individuality beneath his feet, and voluntarily robs himself of all that renders man superior to the brute.

I disagree, I think her redefinition of the word "Jew" is incredibly useful, it helps us to highlight who the utterly hateful and ignorant fools are so that we can heap upon them the appropriate scorn their pathetic ideas call for *grin*

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TSGracchus : Your redefinition of the word "Jew" is not particularly useful and is conducive to confusion and misunderstanding.

Only in the context of Judaism, is there such a thing as a Jew.

Anyone that tries to define a Jew outside the context of Judaism, which is the objective of The Jew™, is denying reality. It should be no surprise to anyone, that using a sock puppet mentality to have dominion over another, which is denying right from wrong, would also deny reality.

No, it isn't. It really isn't. You're just trying to deflect from the fact that TSGracchus is right.

And only within Islam are there Muslims. Fine. But considering your definition of a Jew, I must ask if you think that (i) that only Jews have the criminal tendencies you have outlined (with absolutely no sources, BTW) and (ii) that all Jews are criminals?

Who is "The Jew"? Do you have proof for their existence? What exactly does your assertion about the alleged objectives of the mythical Jew even mean?

It is and will continue to be until the time when you provide proof and sources.

Er, what?

Your entire sentence makes no sense.

Who exactly is this?

Like you, you mean?

Again, who are you talking about? Do you have any sources for you assertions?

You are going to have to start giving concrete examples, rather than rambling on about nothing.

So your problem is with religious (and related) belief in general? So why didn't you just write that, instead of making rambling statements about Jews?

And this has what to do with the Jews and anti Semitism, precisely? It can be said about all religons and worship patterns.

See the above questions.

Islam, Christianity, Hinduism, communism, Fascism...What have you got aginst the Jews specifically?

Pointless.

This is actually quite a good piece of writing on religions and collectivism in general, but it has nothing to do with the thread. It's simply a cop out to avoid explaining your hatred for the Jews specifically.

Is the Bible, the inspired word of God?

It must be admitted that if an infinite Being is the author of the Bible, this Being would know all facts, understand the manifested of all sciences that produce objective reality, and could not have made one mistake. It should be a book that is 100% true. It should contain the perfection of philosophy, politics, and nature. It should be perfectly in accordance with every fact in nature. There should be no mistakes in astronomy, geology, biology, or of any subject in science. Its morality should be the highest, and the purest. Its laws and regulations for the control of conduct should be just, wise, perfect, and perfectly adapted to the accomplishment of the ends desired in idealism.

It should be filled with intelligence, justice, purity, honesty, mercy and the spirit of liberty, by containing nothing to make man cruel, revengeful, vindictive or infamous. It should be opposed to strife and war, to slavery and lust, to ignorance, credulity and superstition. By being true, it should develop the brain and civilize the heart by being the heart and brain of the best and wisest.

Nothing can be clearer than the fact that there are mistakes, misconceptions, false theories, ignorant myths and blunders in the Bible, which proves it had have to have been written by finite beings; that is to say, by ignorant and mistaken men. The millions who continue to believe the Bible as being absolutely true by containing no mistakes; that the story of creation was true; that its astronomy, geology and biology are in accord with the facts, which differs with all the claims of the scientists of objective reality, have no concept of the real GOD, TRUTH.

The true infidels, atheists and criminals, are the bible thumping believers that have no concept of right from wrong, perpetrate the fraud of the false bible god, by having no concept of reality, truth.

Hafke,

What do I have against criminals aka The Jew™, criminality.

Ah ... why is everyone attempting to have a logical discussion with a delusional anti-Semitic racist conspiracy nut, whose homepage listed on their members profile page is a neo-nazis conspiracy forum?

Jews were persecuted throughout history for basically three reasons. 1. They have supported each other through thick and thin developing over time a strong cultural ethnic identity. This has made it easy for other groups to use them as a convenient scapegoats for their own failings. Children pick on the kid wearing the funny clothes all of the time. This persecutions also reinforced the group identity. 2. Because of the Diaspora, Jews have had access to new thoughts, new trade, and have tended to be more cosmopolitan then their Gentile brothers and sisters who were wedded to the land. In many regions Jews were not allowed to own land and were bared from certain occupations and this forced them into skilled trades (doctors, lawyers, bankers, craftsmen and such). Since Jews tended to be better educated then their Gentile brothers and sisters they tended to have a greater chance of succeeding in spite of the persecutions. 3. They have succeeded over time and this drives some nutty who believe it isn't fair that those "strange looking people" can do better then them. Its like children beating up on the smart kid. It makes them feel better.

Yea, its a silly circle.

tashi deleks,

M

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Good eye. It is quite a good piece of writing, writing by Robert G. Ingersoll, that is, in his book Gods and Other Lectures. Gods and Other Lectures - Google Book Search

In addition to attributing so many logical fallacies to Jenifer Johnson, we can add plagiarism.

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Si modo,

Plagiarism isn't a logical fallacy, but thinking plagiarism is a logical fallacy, is the logical fallacy.

Plagiarism is trying to personally benefit off of someone else's intellectual property, as in selling it for personal gain. I'm not selling anything here for personal benefit, only trying to enlighten others to reality.

Stating the truth is not plagiarism, because No one owns the truth.

A good example of plagiarism is the bible, by trying to create a political system of collective control, to benefit the ones in control. There are numerous elements in the Book of Genesis’s Flood Story that mirrors The Epic Of Gilgamesh from hundreds of years earlier. Even Jesus’s story is an obvious rehashing of numerous previous characters. The whole objective of The Jew™ is to personally benefit from the political control, which is plagiarism.

Stating truth for the benefit of the audience, to free themselves from the slavery of mind control, is the opposite of plagiarism. Robert G. Ingersoll was only able to do it better than I.

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But your strawman stating that I said it was one, is.

Plagiarism is dishonest. Plagiarism is academic dishonesty and lacks any academic integrity.

You practiced plagiarism. You used the words of another and did not cite the work of the other. You did not give that person the credit they were due. That is plagiarism. Not only is that a violation of forum rules, it is academically dishonest.

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Si modo : You practiced plagiarism.

You haven't proved that I personally benefited. Everything that has been said, has been said by those that came before them. By your own criteria, you have plagiarized everything you have said, by not giving your teachers credit.

Look up plagiarism. You are making a fool of yourself. You have been caught being dishonest. Now, suck it up and deal with it. Trying to excuse such blantant dishonesty makes you look more the fool than you already appear.

Plagiarists nauseate, me but not as much as racists. You have proven to be both.

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