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Old 09-24-2008
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Re: Why are Jews persecuted throughout history?

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Judaism is a dogma that creates a political system of illegitimate control, that uses a fiction in reality to have dominion over another. Criminality is at the core of the mentality that the dogma creates, because NO one has dominion over another. "God said" is nothing more than a sock puppet perpetrating a fraud by a psychopathic tyrant.

The last one that will own up to their criminal behavior (actions), is the criminal, which is why the criminal wants to hide behind a religion, so they can carry on their criminality behind a facade of good.


Why are criminals persecuted throughout history? Because of their actions.
Hmmm. Let's do an experiment:

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Islam is a dogma that creates a political system of illegitimate control, that uses a fiction in reality to have dominion over another. Criminality is at the core of the mentality that the dogma creates, because NO one has dominion over another. "Allah said" is nothing more than a sock puppet perpetrating a fraud by a psychopathic tyrant.

The last one that will own up to their criminal behavior (actions), is the criminal, which is why the criminal wants to hide behind a religion, so they can carry on their criminality behind a facade of good.

Why are criminals persecuted throughout history? Because of their actions.

That would get me a big, fat, "Islamophobe" pasted on my forehead.

What does it get you?
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Re: Why are Jews persecuted throughout history?

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Judaism is a dogma that creates a political system of illegitimate control, that uses a fiction in reality to have dominion over another. Criminality is at the core of the mentality that the dogma creates, because NO one has dominion over another. "God said" is nothing more than a sock puppet perpetrating a fraud by a psychopathic tyrant.

The last one that will own up to their criminal behavior (actions), is the criminal, which is why the criminal wants to hide behind a religion, so they can carry on their criminality behind a facade of good.


Why are criminals persecuted throughout history? Because of their actions.
Why are you picking on Judaism here? Or is that a mistake and you wish to widen this to all religions?
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Re: Why are Jews persecuted throughout history?

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Why are you picking on Judaism here? Or is that a mistake and you wish to widen this to all religions?
Given the "nature/sound" of the posts, I'm not even sure whether it's a pure religion thing in her case.
Maybe it's not just religious bigotery, but the even more deadly racial one, which grew to strength in the late 19th/20th century and which "replaced" the traditional religious dominated anti-Judaism.
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Old 09-24-2008
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Now, on to the discussion. Why are Jews persecuted like they are? Is it simply because of their religion? Their customs? Is it because, for the most part, they tend not to adapt to the local cultures? Again, I am mainly focusing on historical Europe.
Historically its because they refused to accept christ as the son of god. This made them appear deliberately contrarian, unwilling to cooperate with the real masters, total non-compliance with the perceived norm.

A sort of silly analogy would be the neighborhood code police vs the non compliant neighbors. You know, those people who try to force every neighborhood house to fall under some code of aesthetics but there is always that neighbor who purposely refuses to comply. The code police are the christians, and the non-complying neighbors would be the jews...

This all culminated in the systematic mass murder of European jews under Hitler.

Besides western evangelical fundamentalists and neo-nazi white supremacists, nobody much cares about persecuting jews anymore. In fact, jews are not really even persecuted anymore as a people.

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Re: Why are Jews persecuted throughout history?

All organized region is based in criminality which is now affecting the entire world as they are jockeying for nonexistent authority by their tribal God. All Abrahamic Religions whether the derivation being it Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism or Nazism, are only schisms of the original illegitimate patriarchal structure of control. When you build a dogma on a foundation that is a fraud, all that follows is just a continuation of the same fraud (criminality).

The only way anyone can get someone to do what they want is to provide a positive benefit or else it is by force or fraud. At the core of "God said" is a fraud to get someone to do what they want without justification, so to create a political system around fraud, should be your main concern. The foundation of all Abrahamic Religions is the fraud of "God said", and all schism that follow incorporate the same fraud.

Criminals are persecuted because of their actions.
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Re: Why are Jews persecuted throughout history?

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All organized region is based in criminality which is now affecting the entire world as they are jockeying for nonexistent authority by their tribal God. All Abrahamic Religions whether the derivation being it Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism or Nazism, are only schisms of the original illegitimate patriarchal structure of control. When you build a dogma on a foundation that is a fraud, all that follows is just a continuation of the same fraud (criminality).

The only way anyone can get someone to do what they want is to provide a positive benefit or else it is by force or fraud. At the core of "God said" is a fraud to get someone to do what they want without justification, so to create a political system around fraud, should be your main concern. The foundation of all Abrahamic Religions is the fraud of "God said", and all schism that follow incorporate the same fraud.

Criminals are persecuted because of their actions.
Would this apply to those who worship, say, Ayn Rand as well, out of curiosity?
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Re: Why are Jews persecuted throughout history?

Chocobot : Why are you picking on Judaism here?

The title of the thread is "Why are Jews (Judaism) persecuted throughout history?"

I'm only pointing out, it is one's beliefs that makes one a criminal, by the manifestation of those beliefs. It goes much deeper than just organized religion, because "Government said" is the same criminal mentality. The current system of control is an organized crime syndicate patterned after the original top down structure of control.
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Re: Why are Jews persecuted throughout history?

drgoodtrips,

If you look deeper into the agenda of Ayn Rand, you will find it was only a controlled opposition within the collectivist paradigm.
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Re: Why are Jews persecuted throughout history?

Wait. Buddhists are criminals, too?

They don't even have a "god said" dogma.
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Re: Why are Jews persecuted throughout history?

Buddhism is based on "Gautama Buddha Said".

"Buddha said" is perpetrating the same fraud as "God said", "King said", or "Government said" by a little squirrel hiding behind a fraud of collective control to justify their goal for domination.

Truth is independent of any external source which can be obtained by all. "Squirrel Said" is nothing more than a psychopathic tyrant perpetrating a fraud by using a sock puppet to justify dominion over another. It is the oldest con-game in the world.



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Old 09-25-2008
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Re: Why are Jews persecuted throughout history?

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Buddhism is based on "Gautama Buddha Said".

"Buddha said" is perpetrating the same fraud as "God said", "King said", or "Government said" by a little squirrel hiding behind a fraud of collective control to justify their goal for domination.

Truth is independent of any external source which can be obtained by all. "Squirrel Said" is nothing more than a psychopathic tyrant perpetrating a fraud by using a sock puppet to justify dominion over another. It is the oldest con-game in the world.


You make some good points. Kudos.
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Re: Why are Jews persecuted throughout history?

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Chocobot : Why are you picking on Judaism here?

The title of the thread is "Why are Jews (Judaism) persecuted throughout history?"
But why Judaism and the Jews specifically? Are you suggesting that anti Semitic persecution through history is somehow the fault of the Jews?
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Re: Why are Jews persecuted throughout history?

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Buddhism is based on "Gautama Buddha Said".

"Buddha said" is perpetrating the same fraud as "God said", "King said", or "Government said" by a little squirrel hiding behind a fraud of collective control to justify their goal for domination.

Truth is independent of any external source which can be obtained by all. "Squirrel Said" is nothing more than a psychopathic tyrant perpetrating a fraud by using a sock puppet to justify dominion over another. It is the oldest con-game in the world.


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Except, of course, that the Buddha repeatedly asked his followers to question him. If they were afraid, he asked them to use proxies to ask questions. That's not dogma.

If his teachings have been bastardized over a few millenia, well, yeah, that happens (happened to Jesus, too). But to discount all spiritual beliefs as something triggering criminality? That's beyond reason.
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Re: Why are Jews persecuted throughout history?

Hafke,

Outside the context of Judaism there is no such thing as a Jew. Being pro-Judaism is being pro-criminality, which is why a Jew is persecuted for manifesting their beliefs. Being anti-Judaism is being anti-criminality.
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Re: Why are Jews persecuted throughout history?

pramjockey,

The main objective of all collectivism is for the promotion and the continuation of the dogma, not the pursuit of truth. Therefore, by its nature, all collectivism is anti-truth, therefore promoting criminality.

As an individual truth seeker, using a proxy reminds me of a child's game, where you line up several individuals and whisper a message in their ear. The end message is always bastardized. from the beginning.
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