IIRC, there are a few reasons behind the jews persecution. First off, thier religion allowed for usery in a time when it was very much frowned upon by all others, hence thier reputation as cheap, untrustworthy, ect ect. Another, more modern reason some people distrust/dislike jewish people is thier closed circle community. Unlike any modern religion, some jewish people choose to seperate themselves from society, and deal only with other jews. In many cases marriage to a non jew is looked down upon. Finally, there is the idea that the jews killed Christ. Whether there is any truth to that or not, I do not know, but needless to say its a turnoff for alot of radical christians

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One thing to consider, is the fact that a core belief of judaism until relatively recently in history was that you were born a jew, or you were not a jew, you literally had to be a descendent of one of the tribes to be among the "chosen people". I can not think of, off the top of my head, any other faith which is so exclusionary. Anyone may become a Christian, a Muslim, a Buhddist, etc. But for most of history you could not convert to judaism.

In fact, the desire and effort to convert others not of your faith to yours is in a way a common thread, or frame of reference for most faiths.

Does anyone think this has added to the historical animosities and persecutions?

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Thats an interesting point. I suppose refering to your race as "Gods chosen people" isn't all that far off from saying you are part of the superior Aryon race.

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Marcus1124,


Judaism (OT) originated the concept of race, "born a Jew", which is the foundation of the "Old Covenant", where one has to be born a Jew to be saved. God was only over the Jews, as in, "God of the Jews".

The whole point of the New Testament was for Jesus to fulfill the "The New Covenant", where God is over everyone, and one did not have to be born a Jew to saved, but one is saved through following the teachings of Jesus, as in "Born Again".

Don't confused Jesus with Christianity. There is no book of Jesus. Christianity was created by a Jew (Paul) with the objective of being used as a controlled opposition to Judaism, being an opposing side in the collectivist paradigm.

Tautog,

Nazism is only regurgitated Judaism, making Nazism Judaism's bastard child of race supremacy for world domination. Long before there was ever a man called Hitler, there was a man called Moses that claimed he talked to God and created a political system for collective control by using the concept of race (born a Jew) to have dominion over another for world domination (king of kings). At the core of Judaism is the belief that their race is god's chosen, and should be the ruler's of the world, making Judaism the originator of a racial political system for world domination.

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Dr. MacDonald refers to Nazism as a "mirror image strategy."

Interesting. I still see no link to judaism's teaching of criminality. All I see are your bizzare beliefs that it does. A belief is not evidence. As a 'truth seeker', that last sentence might be something to consider.

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Jewish morality centers around doing that which is good for the Jewish collective, be it illegal or legal yet widely frowned upon.

There are Jews who certainly promote criminal behavior through the dissemination of rap "music" (as but one of thousands of examples of Jewish malice towards non-Jews).

There are also Roman Catholics who do. There are also Greek Orthodox who do.

My take? Some people will choose criminal behavior regardless of their religion.

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Jews comprise a group of closely related individuals. Roman Catholics do not.

Then you haven't much experience with the tight groups in the Roman Catholic community. But, if you and others wish to believe that Judaism promotes criminality, so be it.

I long ago realized that the anti-Jew mentality is so ingrained in some that they should simply be dismissed for what they are.

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There are Roman Catholics of many different races. Roman Catholicism is a religion. Do you dispute this?

Jews comprise an ethnic group. Do you dispute this?

This is an ad hominem argument. It is the equivalent of saying "Anyone who points out truths that I want suppressed will be called childish names in an effort to keep said truths suppressed."

A variation of this quote could be "I long ago realized that the anti-[O.J. Simpson/Ted Bundy/John Gacy] mentality is so ingrained in some that they should simply be dismissed for what they are." from someone fanatically devoted to the dogma that any one of those murderers is innocent. The only difference is, none of those individuals has a mass following that has an irrational, emotional, dogmatic conviction, ingrained in them since early childhood by propaganda from the mainstream media and educational system, that they are innocent of what others have accused them of.

Irrespective of your thought that "anti-Jew" is childish (while talking about talk about ad hominems), do you dispute the fact that criminality is found in persons of all religions? And, if you can supply me and others with demographic data indicating that a higher percentage of criminals are Jewish, I would be interested in seeing that. As a pre-emption (as I've much experience in hearing these kinds of discussions), trying to justify any numbers indicating there is no connection to one being a crimnal and being Jewish, dismissing the data with a rationale that Jews are "too smart" or "too clever" to be caught, is nothing other than another belief.

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