I'm a bit suspicious of clicking on links of new posters. Why don't you fill me in. Does your link provide demographic data indicating that there are significantly more Jews who commit crimes?

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It is a link to a professor's website. The scope of his trilogy on the history of the Jews includes contemporary Jewish crimes, but also acts committed outside of the context of contemporary Western law that would be considered either illegal today, or unethical (for instance, usery in the Middle Ages was legal for them then, but is illegal in the U.S. today).

You speak of crimes. MacDonald covers content that is more general than crimes, that includes crimes as well as non-criminal misdeeds.

Then why doesn't it have an edu suffix?

That still doesn't tell me what actual data supports any staement that Judaism promotes criminality. One needs some actual data to support a thesis such as this. Beliefs don't do it.

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Si modo : I still see no link to judaism's teaching of criminality.

Then please articulate for everyone what you think the basis for right from wrong could be?

Judaism's basis of right from wrong, is "God said", which boils down to nothing more than using a sock puppet to perpetrating a fraud. I guess in your mind perpetrating a fraud is not criminality.


I find that all bible thumpers not only have no concept of reality, but don't even know the difference between right from wrong.

Looking at your last sentence only; if that is true, I'm wondering why others did not find themselves gassed and/or incinerated during WWII, rather the majority were Jews, just for example.

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You have that backwards - Usury was illegal/frowned upon in the middle ages but is perfectly legal and socially accepted in the US today.


Looks like somebody left the gate open at stormfront again

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I don't think any of that is particularly relevant to the point being discussed which is why Jews have seemingly been persecuted rather consistently. I merely suggested that part of the explanation (although by no means a justification) is based in part on the way one of the central beliefs of their sets them apart (wishing neither to assimilate into other cultures, or to convert others to their faith), whereas many other faiths at least have the common goal of wishing to reach and out make converts.

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It is his personal website.

His books are loaded with citations.

Usery was illegal only for indigenous Europeans.

I see that Neoconservatives like the ad hominem fallacy just as much as Liberals like said fallacy.

Oh, that's right, Neoconservatism is rooted in Liberalism.

For the sake of curiosity, please explain what makes you think I'm a neoconservative.

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"There are no innocent civilians." - Gerneral Curtis Lemay. A.K.A Bombs away Lemay

Marcus1124: I don't think any of that is particularly relevant to the point being discussed which is why Jews have seemingly been persecuted rather consistently.

It is at the core of the discussion, because the objective is transference of the blame from the dogma, to a false construct of the dogma "The Jew".

"Why are Jews persecuted throughout history?"

Outside the context of Judaism, there is no such thing as a Jew. The only thing that can be blamed for someone being persecuted, is the manifestation of Judaism.

The term of Jew is a theological construct of Judaism.

That is fatuous circular reasoning. It doesn't matter how the "construct" came to be, Jews are Jews, it is not some ambiguous terms. The question is why Jews are persecuted throughout history, not why we call them jews, how they came to be an idenfitiable group.

Nor is the "objective transference of the blame from the dogma, to a false construct of the dogma The Jew". The objective is to explore WHY the group both self-identified and recognized by others as "jews" throughout history have been persecuted.

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So what your saying is that when Christians were persecuted by the Romans the only thing that can be blamed is the manifestation of Christianity, since outside the context of Christianity there is no such thing as a Christian, and thus its really thier own fault? Its out of the realm of possibility the Romans were acting in a primative, inhumane fashion?

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Liberty is a well armed lamb willing to contest the majority decision!" ~ Benjamin Franklin
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"There are no innocent civilians." - Gerneral Curtis Lemay. A.K.A Bombs away Lemay

Marcus1124, What makes a Jew, a Jew? Judaism, and nothing more.

Tautog, Exactly.