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Re: Muslim cashiers won't ring up pork

DANG IT! Look at people agreeing on here! It's the end times I tell you! The lions are resting with the lambs!!!!!!!

I knew a mormon gas station owner that would make his employees stock the coke fridge because of his religious beliefs. Yet he took the profits.
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hmmm. it must be America. doesn't happen here. Muslims who work at checkouts in Australia don't seem to have a problem ringing up bacon and ham and other haram products ....

I guess the crazy yank 'you're with us or against us' logic has spread to your immigrants as well ....
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Nor have i heard of this happening in Canada...

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Ditto for North Western Europe. Eating pork is the issue, not handling it -let alone when it is packaged- and even that is only partially followed.
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DANG IT! Look at people agreeing on here! It's the end times I tell you! The lions are resting with the lambs!!!!!!!

I knew a mormon gas station owner that would make his employees stock the coke fridge because of his religious beliefs. Yet he took the profits.
Opposition to the sale of a product does not change the color of the money gained from selling that product.
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No, what has spread to our immigrants is much worse.

It's the either "you honor my every whim without question or I sue" logic.

Pray it never takes hold there. Seriously.

It's far more dangerous.

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I think our federal and state anti-discrimination laws are pretty robust and probably - hopefully - not open to that sort of abuse.

As for our civil law - they'll need a lot more than a whim to ground an action, thankfully.
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And yet our industrial relations laws are far more liberal than yours are. A person has more than one avenue to claim compensation in australia if they are unfairly discriminated against.
I dont think this can be attributed to some sort of "disease" that only affects immigrants.

ian - JWH wants our IR laws to be worst than the worse of the US, the block to him are the states (so far). On our workers compensation, yes, generally speaking that's right - we take most of our wc legislation from Canada, particularly BC. As for our human rights laws - as I said, hopefully they are protected from abuse.
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ian - JWH wants our IR laws to be worst than the worse of the US, the block to him are the states (so far). On our workers compensation, yes, generally speaking that's right - we take most of our wc legislation from Canada, particularly BC. As for our human rights laws - as I said, hopefully they are protected from abuse.
One thing is for sure, if we leave Howard in much longer he will continue to erode workers and human rights. The polls are giving me great pleasure atm.
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hmmm. it must be America. doesn't happen here. Muslims who work at checkouts in Australia don't seem to have a problem ringing up bacon and ham and other haram products ....

I guess the crazy yank 'you're with us or against us' logic has spread to your immigrants as well ....
Yeah, because the President said it that must mean that not only does the majority of the population agree with it but also that Americans are the ones that created the idea.
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Re: Muslim cashiers won't ring up pork

If a Muslim Cashier does that shit to me ill ask for the manager.

Youre fired cause you didnt sell the pork!
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Yeah, because the President said it that must mean that not only does the majority of the population agree with it but also that Americans are the ones that created the idea.
Fair comment, that sort of fallacy has been around since Aristotle I think. The fallacy of the excluded middle I think it's called. It's bloody sad when it underpins US foreign policy though, very sad indeed.

But we're talking about Muslims and pork aren't we? Need to get back on track. Well if the employers are moving them to other duties then that says a lot about the employers - good things I mean. But I bet the HR people all over the States are working on this now.

Q. "Is there anything which precludes you from handling pork?"

A. "Hell no, I used to be a politician, I stuffed pork every damn week"

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So what is next? Indians refusing to sell beef??? For once I agree with Rakkasan.
I fully agree. This is BS IMHO.

And yes, I agree with Rakkassan too on this one!

Anyway, I have nothing againt those who don't wish to eat pork as part of their religion, but then they should not be working at a supermarket selling pork anyway (not in the checkout aisle at least). Not my problem that they don't wish to eat pork ... but it IS my problem if they don't check me out.

I think this is carrying things a bit too far (ditto with the Christains who refuse to sell birth control).
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holy crap i have benn agreed with on USPOL that has to be a first
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Here is what I don't understand.

These people say that selling pork is against their religion, yet they choose to work in a store that - hello - sells pork.
I am Muslim and I have no reservations about eating pork. I love bacon. It is a cultural taboo, not a religious taboo. I don't eat rats, cats or dogs because it is taboo in my culture, not because of my religion. In the same sense, some people don't eat cows because it is taboo.

I would certainly feel uncomfortable about selling rat-meat as food to people.

But then, some people even eat bugs and grubs, something that I personally think is disgusting.
Same with fish eggs/caviar, escargo/snails, tofu and other gross crap.

Dietary taboos vary by culture and the USA is multicultural society.
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Yeah, because the President said it that must mean that not only does the majority of the population agree with it but also that Americans are the ones that created the idea.
well, after 3+ years of coming here, and a lifetime of exposure to American TV - both current affairs and entertainment, it seems there's a real 'us and them' attitude thats stronger int he US than anywhere else, except among fanatical groups.

and really - IF this is happening (and its a big IF) WHY would it happen in the US? I have yet to go to a kebab shop (which are mostly run by Turks or Kurds here) where menus exclude pork, ham and bacon products.

If its happening - why does it happen in the US, but not among Muslim populations in other western nations (except, most likely among those who work in halal shops for a Muslim clientele?
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No, what has spread to our immigrants is much worse.

It's the either "you honor my every whim without question or I sue" logic.

Pray it never takes hold there. Seriously.

It's far more dangerous.

Matt
Is it more to do with the nature of american political culture or the immigrants themselves?

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Hehe, moronic. In Norway there was people who didn't want some muslim organiztion to pray in public (they were planning a mass-prayer on a public square) and threatened with hanging up pork chops around the area to scare them away...
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