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Re: Muslim cashiers won't ring up pork

If I have to scan my own bacon or beer then I should get paid for doing the cashier's job. Even if it's only a couple of pennies for the time it takes to scan. The cashier should have to punch out, let the customer scan the stuff, then punch back in when the bacon has gone on through. If this takes 5 seconds per customer and there are 50 customers per day then those seconds add up when you figure the value of that time by what they make an hour. I should get that couple cents taken off my bill at the end of the sale. And the cashier should be docked.
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If its happening - why does it happen in the US, but not among Muslim populations in other western nations (except, most likely among those who work in halal shops for a Muslim clientele?
Interesting question. I don't know for sure - could one reason be responding to overly paranoid behavior towards oneself with equally ridiculous behavior?
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Re: Muslim cashiers won't ring up pork

I think if they can't do the job then they shouldn't try.

But lets not be making generalizations here? It says in the article that it's not at all widespread, it's a rather isolated thing that happened in a few stores in Minnesota.

I like the way that Target is handling it.
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I think if they can't do the job then they shouldn't try.

But lets not be making generalizations here? It says in the article that it's not at all widespread, it's a rather isolated thing that happened in a few stores in Minnesota.

I like the way that Target is handling it.
Hear, hear! Target handled it well, kudos to their HR people.
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Re: Muslim cashiers won't ring up pork

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I am Muslim and I have no reservations about eating pork. I love bacon. It is a cultural taboo, not a religious taboo. I don't eat rats, cats or dogs because it is taboo in my culture, not because of my religion. In the same sense, some people don't eat cows because it is taboo.

I would certainly feel uncomfortable about selling rat-meat as food to people.

But then, some people even eat bugs and grubs, something that I personally think is disgusting.
Same with fish eggs/caviar, escargo/snails, tofu and other gross crap.

Dietary taboos vary by culture and the USA is multicultural society.
Don't make me laugh. On top of everthing else you have claimed. Now you claim to be Muslim also? Sure you are!!
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Muslim clerks at Target refuse to ring up pork products

It seems that some Muslims have quite a few problems with American customs, ranging from political cartoons to open debate of issues to even touching a CAN that has a pork product in it.

It is becoming apparent to me that Americans dealing with these issues one at a time, and changing what we do so that we don't offend these people, isn't working. I suggest we put a more permanent solution to the problems these Muslim people are having into effect, not by transferring the Clerks to different jobs, but by transferring them to different Target stores: The stores in Muslim countries. Then they will have no further problems with American customs and ways of life, because they will be far away from them. Then they won't be "complicit in the sins of ithers", as one of the Muslims seems to say here. A win-win situation overall!

That's the reason, in fact, why we have different countries in the first place. In our country, we can do the things we like as a people, without risk of offendinng those in other countries. And they can do the things they like in their countries, and we will not take notice or ask them to change their own private ways.

Oh, there aren't any Target stores in Muslim countries? Why not? Don't the residents of those countries want them? That's certainly their perogative. We can simply transfer the clerks who object to our stores' policies, to those Muslim countries, and they can wait for their countrymen to see the light ans start building Target stores - with or without pork products, as they desire.

In this country, Target is a large store that sells many things, including pork products. People who work there as clerks, are supposed to ring them all up when customers want to buy them. Did the Muslims in question not know these facts when they applied for the job?

BTW, I heard that some Jewish people also have a custom of not touching or eating pork. Have any clerks at Target who are Jewish, refused to ring up cans of pork products? Or refused to put a carton of milk beside a meat product? Or etc.?

Are there any Catholic clerks at Target, who refuse to ring up meat products on Fridays?

Why is it only Muslims who insist that Target change their job descriptions to accomodate their religion?

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FOXNews.com - Some Target Stores Change Duties for Muslim Cashiers Who Object to Ringing Up Pork - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News

Some Target Stores Change Duties for Muslim Cashiers Who Object to Ringing Up Pork

Saturday, March 17, 2007

MINNEAPOLIS — Muslim cashiers at some local Target stores who object to ringing up products that contain pork are being shifted to other positions, the national retailer said Saturday.

Some Muslim cashiers had declined to scan products such as bacon because doing so would conflict with their religious beliefs. They would ask other cashiers to ring up such purchases, or some customers scanned the items themselves.

Minneapolis-based Target Corp. has offered the cashiers the option of wearing gloves, shifting to other positions or transferring to other stores.

"We are confident that this is a reasonable solution for our guests and team members," Target spokeswoman Paula Thornton-Greear said in a statement e-mailed to The Associated Press on Saturday.

Islam teaches that eating pork is forbidden, and some Muslims feel selling or handling pork is also forbidden because it would make them complicit in the sins of others.
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Re: Muslim clerks at Target refuse to ring up pork products

I wanna open a bacon cheeseburger stand in the occupied territories...
Get them both shooting at the same thing for a change...
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Re: Muslim clerks at Target refuse to ring up pork products

Shifted to other positions???

Why would they not be fired?
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Re: Muslim clerks at Target refuse to ring up pork products

Why not just admit that you want to get all the muslim clerks fired, A-ho..I mean, A-corn?
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Re: Muslim cashiers won't ring up pork

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Due to religious beliefs, Muslims are complaining about ringing up pork at some Target stores. So I ask, is it time to start asking people about their religious beliefs during interviews? I think this needs to be considered. A few weeks ago it was the taxi drivers that would not pick up intoxicated passengers, due to religious beliefs and now it's not ringing up pork.

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They should be fired for not doing their job.

This is just like those idiot pharmacists who decided to overrule a physicians order for birth control.

Fire the incompetents. Then, start their own business and pick/choose who they can serve as the law allows.
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Re: Muslim clerks at Target refuse to ring up pork products

They're the ones objecting to doing the job, not me.

BTW, you're the only one who has suggested firing all Muslim clerks. Nice try, if ineffectual, at pretending I said it.
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Re: Muslim clerks at Target refuse to ring up pork products

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Shifted to other positions???

Why would they not be fired?
Target Fires Muslims > Target Stores Get Bombed > Survivors Sue Target > Customers Driven Away...

Say all you want to about sticking to ideals, but in the real world, there isn't a CEO in his/her right mind that's going to make that call...
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Re: Muslim clerks at Target refuse to ring up pork products

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BTW, you're the only one who has suggested firing all Muslim clerks.
Looks like iam beat me to it. I was being sarcastic anyway; clearly he wasn't.
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Re: Muslim clerks at Target refuse to ring up pork products

This was posted in Humanities, or whatever that section is called.

But, i'll reiterate my opinion:

They should be fired for not doing their job, just as those pharmacists who refuse to fill birth control should be fired.

Fire them. Tell them to open their own store if they dont want to sell pork.
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Re: Muslim clerks at Target refuse to ring up pork products

Actually, it depends on whether or not they stated this in their interview when they were hired. If they did, it's Targets fault, if not it's theirs. No law says you have to get a job in a place that sells pork..
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