Exactly. And that seems to be what Target is trying to do.

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Considering the source of this news item, I can't help but question its validity!

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hairball, another area where we have some agreement. However, I love caviar, even the pretend stuff, and many of my friends attest that frog's legs and escargot are delicious. I'm going to wait until I actually eat them in France and then give an opinion.

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But why should I have to have another cashier swipe my product? It's one thing if they are standing around, directing everyone with pork/alcohol products to a certain lane, and if thats what the policy of the store is, but neither of those conditions have been met here.

Point being, why should I be inconvenienced due to someone elses' religious preferences? In fact if they couldn't do the job, they should not have taken it - and saying that is not disrespecting Islam. In fact, not checking out customer's products is disrespecting the customer in a way.

Sorry, but that argument doesn't hold water. Should all Walmarts in Indian communities stop selling beef? Should all liqor stores in Muslim areas stop selling liqor? Thats just ludicrious.

Well, you are free to toss your liqor. I'd be PISSED if some cabbie complained about what I was carrying in my bags! Now if I was drinking liqor in the cab, cabbie's got a point and a right to complain - otherwise, it's really none of his business what I carry in my bags.

Agree, but this isn't the point here.

If I’d go shopping only to find out that the clerk wouldn’t ring up my pork product, the two of us along with the manager would be having a very good discussion…..And it would be THE last time I’d shop there.

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Many times I believe Americans will have to take back the country and start a new government.

I really think this is one of those typical 'mountain out of a molehill' story we keep hearing from the US.

I would suspect its an isolated case thats been blown out of proportion .... most likely a store in a Muslim neighbourhood.

In my experience Muslims are not all delicate about pig meat at all. The way people carry on here, anybody would think as soon as someone mentioned the world 'pig,' all Muslims would immediately rush to the other side of a room and hide, for fear of catching cooties.

LOL. Just because you guys are all a bunch of scaredy cats doesn't mean EVERYONE is!

Probably is an isolated case, yes. And it's being blown out of proportion as you say - these days, just about anything on either side is blown out of proportion.

I see. So rural people are all racist bigots and city people are not? And of course it's Bud they have. It can't be some expensive imported wine. Us country folk aint got no book learnin about no such thang.

I checked this with a friend of mine who's a Muslim. He says that there is no stricture in the Koran or elsewhere that forbids the handling of pork.

He did concede, though, that someone who's been brought up to avoid pork might feel psychologically uncomfortable about touching it.

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Because the Muslim cashiers don't want to.

One might as well ask why one should have to pay for pork or anything else in the store.

It's fact of life, period.

Well, if the store has that convenience, by all means, take advantage of it. If it's not there, don't waste time complaining about simply having someone else swipe your food or swiping it yourself in self-checkout.

Because that's the way life works.

What people should or should not do is relative. Obviously the cashiers disagree.

What matters in the end is that they have the jobs.

No it's not ludicrous. The culture of a specific community always affects what's available to buy there. For example, in most grocery stores in the US, dog meat is not available.

In S. Korea, it is. But no S. Korean goes to a US grocery store and complains about why his freedoms were violated because he can't get dog meat.

Rodent meat is also not available in most American grocery stores. It is, however, available in Chinatown and certain West African stores in NY.

But no Chinese/African is going to walk into an Albertson's in Midwest America and scream about someone "ramming religion down his throat" because he can't get rodent meat.

Technically, if it's in your bags, the cabbie wouldn't know, would he?

You could easily get away with it, although it'd be disrespectful.

Tossing a six pack is no big deal just to accomodate someone's religious beliefs. If you have a bottle of Courvoisier, you should make plans ahead of time for an Anglo-Saxon cabbie or make other ground travel arragements.

That is also a cultural issue. Some cabbies don't mind if their patrons drink. Better they do it in the cab than behind the wheel, no?

It is if it violates their religious sensibilities, however silly you think they are.

Like I said, if you feel so strongly about, just be rude, carry it in your bag,

and the Muslim cabbie most likely won't notice.

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In one ear and out the other.

That's the appropriate thing to do . The manager talk is a waste of time.

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Sorry, but what the cashiers "want" to do goes out the window when they accept a job which has checking meat items out as part of their job requirements. If it states clearly they do NOT have to handle pork, you might would have a point, but I am not aware of any meat store which would allow it's cashiers to selectively check out items.

Ridiculous question. You have to pay because you are buying something from the store. Duh!


Sorry, but HAVING to have someone else swipe my food is not what I agreed to when I entered the store. The cashiers on the other hand agree to scan customer's purchases, no matter what they are - therefore they are the ones who should be penalised, not the customer.

Twaddle. Sorry, my dear, it does not. If a Christian came up to me tomorrow and asked me to start following the Holy Bible because (let's say) my publicly practising my own religion (if I did believe in religion) "offended" him, I'd be fully within my rights to tell that person to go stuff it. You are completely wrong on this issue.

Nonsense. You agree to something when you take on a job, and that is not relative.

They can disagree all they like, but they still better scan my products.

And whatever fool didnt fire them for it likely needs to be canned too.


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No it's not ludicrous. The culture of a specific community always affects what's available to buy there. For example, in most grocery stores in the US, dog meat is not available.

In S. Korea, it is. But no S. Korean goes to a US grocery store and complains about why his freedoms were violated because he can't get dog meat.
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Nonsense. There are plenty of Indians living all over the US, and beef is available all over the US. I haven't heard a single case of Hindu Indians complaining about beef being sold in Walmart or that the handlers handle chicken and beef with the same hands. Your argument is incorrect.

Again, pointless line of reasoning. See above.


Bull. It ain't disrespectful if I'm not forcing him to drink.

Hell yeah it's a big deal. You give me the $5.50 or whatever it costs for the six pack, and THEN I'll toss it ...

This is irrelevant.

If it does, they shouldn't be driving cabs in the first place.

Damn sure I will.
Whether they notice or not ain't the point. The point is, they are not going to force me to "toss" my liqor. End of frigging story.

Fully with you on this one. I'd pitch a fit if I'd been shopping for a while, and wanted to get back home and EAT, and was then told by some jackass that he/she couldn't check my product out due to religious beliefs. Clearly, since this wasn't initimated to me when I entered, and isn't the store's rules, someone would have to do a whole hell of a lot of explaining.

I wonder how many would support a Baptist cashier who feels he can't sell alcohol or a Catholic one who won't ring up condoms!!!

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