lol...

American Imperialism is an ambiguous term. I find it amusing like the word facism yet real at the same time. Imperialism implies colonies, yet there are no colonialists.

Prior to the removal of Saddam, I would say the idea of an American Empire that conquers and annexes foreign lands was laughable. But now I can't blame other people for seeing it that way.

And post WWII era was definitely the age of America. The 21st century, however, is not starting off so hot.

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One day, I will sneak across the border into Canada and be an illegal alien. It will be fun.

ever heard of neo-imperialism and economic imperilalism,, or free trade imperialism?

your thinking old school, the game has changed brother!

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"Mrs. Palin, which specific journals and news sources do you read? (after being asked once)"

"Oh, All of them!"

Indeed. Control of money, not control of land, is what is important now.

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I said it was an ambiguous term, yet apparently real.

I didn't rule out one facet over another, brother.

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One day, I will sneak across the border into Canada and be an illegal alien. It will be fun.

then almost everyone should not be able to talk about anything.. i prolly know as much about it as the average uspoll member. but such a subject is very complex and i prefer to know the ins and outs of everything before i join a discussion on such a topic. I spent enough time studing israel and palestine ins and outs... perhaps when i have time i will read all there is on south american involvement..

basically my oppinion would generally be that not everything we ever did there was bad and there would be some decent reasons for doing these things.. but i wouldwant to study every single case indepth.. right now i just dont have the time.

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Free Trade Imperialism???????

You gotta be kidding me!
Have you seen US trade deficits?

CHINA dumps on the US market intentionally with underpriced products in order to take over that market. They did it with textiles, electronics and now paper.

Right now China is dumping paper on the US market LESS than what it cost them to make it...the only thing our f*cking government is doing about it is they tried to pass a law that would place tarrifs on "unprinted sheets only" - which is utter BS since the printing/packaging industry is the real market they are trying to take over.

Trade Imperialism by the US...jesus dude you have a great deal to learn

whoa, man. chill out. i was simply suggesting other forms of imperialism than colinial rule. never did i outright assert that america participates in all of those.

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Anyone with a vision needs to see an eye doctor. -Helmut Schmidt.

"Mrs. Palin, which specific journals and news sources do you read? (after being asked once)"

"Oh, All of them!"

US Trade rules are a severe sore spot for me as a man who runs a manufacturing company (printing).

My Sig primarily addresses my feeling on how our economy is being hijacked and WILL lead to the end of our superpower.

sorry to hear that, you make a good point. do you have any thoughts as to why our government is putting up with this crap?

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Anyone with a vision needs to see an eye doctor. -Helmut Schmidt.

"Mrs. Palin, which specific journals and news sources do you read? (after being asked once)"

"Oh, All of them!"

Because we, the consumers, are no longer the customer to large companies.
Today the customer is the shareholder.
There are faaaaaaar more people today investing than ever before - and this is not a good thing. Now companies are placing significant more attention to their stock value than what they can bring to the consumers.
Look at how many major companies that have been involved in false revenue reporting etc. Companies are superficially and artificially inflating numbers to attain short-term gains, which drive up the stock values, they get huge stock dough - the top-top people makes MILLIONS and the company is left in dust. This has been repeated dozens of times in the last 5 years alone.

Again - to printing.
Imagine you own stock in a publishing company.
Let's say the stock is currently $10 a share.
The company at first switches to Chinese paper, which reduces there material cost by as much as 60% - which drives your stock to $13 a share...lot's of happy shareholders.
But wait - now the company not only switches to Chinese paper, but fires most of their production staff, closes bindery operations and has the printing/binding ALSO done in China..the price per book to print dropped by 40%...now your stock went wild and is now $18 a share!!!...lot's of happy, happy rich people living large at the Riviera now!
Only...1200 people loss their job, paper companies everywhere are reeling - suppliers are reeling, press manufacturers are reeling...but you are happy.

Now apply this to many other manufacturing sectors - and you have EXACTLY what is happening to the US trade market.

Consider - the reason the US was so instrumental and successful in WWII was not our superior technology (it wasn't) superior numbers (we didn't) superior military equipment (we certainly didn't) - but it was our gigantic industrial might that could produce military weaponry, planes. ships and support vehicles at a speed faster than all of our enemies combined - we out supplied our enemies.
Today - God help us if there is a world war...our industrial might..is gone.

Hegemony is NEVER good for anyone but the Hegemon. American economic imperialism has been far worse than it has been good. Ask anyone in Central or South America or the Philippines. Ask the nations of Africa who were exploited for slaves and later resources. Ask Asians who were forced into a detrimental economic system which made their citizens drug addicts and proles. Ask Iraq about their oil...
Yes Iraqi's had a brutal dictator that killed his own citizens, well maybe we shouldn't have gave him weapons and chemicals to fight Iran?


I don't see our government trying to topple the evil dictators in Africa, I don't see our government supporting the populist movements in China, I don't see our government supporting popular democracies like Venezuela and Iran.

I don't see our government openly and honestly trying to solve the very problems of Economic Imperialism that exploit our own citizens.



Imperialism is never good for anyone but the imperial.

i view it as not only benifiting us but also combating a more dangerous evil...
iran is hardly a popular democracy. we support the people who have the most similiar ideologies to us.. let the rest be damned. further our own ideology and power.. help those who want our ideology.. or something similiar to it.. always support the lesser of two evils..

also i see you have missed crystals thread on who gave saddam wmd.. very enlightening.. why not stick to say.. the post ww2 era. because that is when american hegenomy makes its appearance.. everything else is off topic.

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What exactly is that more dangerous ideal?

And we certainly don't support people with similar ideologies, nor damn those with opposing ideologies.

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its all for a certain edge... if i was afraid of some power that had the potential to beat me.. and he was getting controll over all the worlds oil.. i would instigate revolts in those areas. .. if i was worried about arab extremism .. i would use cia opperations to instigate different tribes to go to war... if i was concerned about a foriegn power putting missles in my back yard i would confront them... if a foriegn power influenced countries in my back yard to have revolutions contrary to my ideology.. i would raise a new revolutionary army in that state... etc..

no we do whats convienant to the furthering of our own goals for spreading of our ideology (which btw is superior to most all forms of ideologies) so we can benifit.. and so can they.... the more democracies out there.. the better off the world is. the better off the people are...

and its not all about spreading democracy... sometimes its about stopping the spread of something more dangerous.

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not in all cases.

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Anyone with a vision needs to see an eye doctor. -Helmut Schmidt.

"Mrs. Palin, which specific journals and news sources do you read? (after being asked once)"

"Oh, All of them!"