Now my family is a tough nut when it comes to religion , I personally believe and pray but wouldn’t say I am devout by that I don’t go to church for I think they are money laundering facilities so to speak for they pass the plate way too much now a days, and I don’t bible study or anything, my wife is agnostic so to speak she believes kind of but always gets wrapped around the who created god thing and feels its not absolute, and my kids are straight up atheist. My son feels its all bullshit and my daughter is too busy partying to notice anything to be quite honest. I state this to set up the parameters that this isn’t coming from a very religious family.



So yesterday the wife and I had a date day....no kids just me and her, watched the air show for awhile on Ft Campbell and went shopping.

We decided to try out a new restaurant in town called "Cheese Burger Charlie’s". It is an off spring (I am told) of O Charlie’s and was supposed to be a better hamburger joint than the usual fair of MC Chucks and Burger King. And it had the theme of a burger bar My son called at the last minute and asked to join for he had gotten off of work so we agreed he could crash our date.

We went in and ordered, and next to the till was a prayer request board , with a box that you could make prayer request and drop them in.........on it was the managers name and it appeared request for her for she was ill.

We then went and sat at our table and there was on the table the whole table, varnished into it, advertisements for churches in the area. Around us we noticed every other table was the same, the others were blank. On the bar where you get your pickles and stuff to put on your burgers was a scrolling marquee with " god is great have a great day"

We then listened to the music as we ate and it was religious music, modern form that you wouldn’t really catch for it sounded like top 40


Once it finally came together my wife was of the opinion that they should disclaim that this is a religious establishment on the door. My son said it totally fucked up that they would slam their morals down other people’s throat. And I was well kind of surprised but didn’t see the big deal because the burgers were ok ….


So my question is should business and religion be mixed? Should business such as restaurants actually disclaim stuff like this so people know? Or should a business be able to do whatever they want in regards to religion in the workplace?

I know you've got me on ignore, but I'm going to respond anyway.

I would have left the restaurant. If people want to have their beliefs, that's fine. I choose not to pay to support those beliefs. It's kind of like when people put those Jesus fish on their advertisements; I specifically avoid those businesses.

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Which brings up the point that maybe they should disclaim it , you see the fish and you dont go, do businesses actually owe the consumer that much?

I am starting to see maybe my wife was right , maybe they do need to disclaim it for in this case there is nothing in print, tv or any other ad that disclaims this is a christian specific organization..

Should the businesses have the right? Absolutely!

Would I go to such a nutty estabilishment? Never.

And before the Christians on here start to think that was an insult towards the religion of Christianity - well, I wouldn't go to ANY estabilishment that wanted to shove ANY brand of religion down my throat.

I'm an atheist, and prefer to stay that way ...

Religion is business...

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wow that kind of sums it up and you would be correct on that which is why i am reticent in going to church now adays

but as an athiest do you belive they should have something posted, or advertised prior to you visiting the establishment and finding out?

My dad was brought up in a very strict religious environment, and he said something to me once after knocking a few back that has always stuck with me. He said, "If you're looking for God, you sure as hell aren't going to find Him in a church." Your children ought not to be atheists simply because organized religion tends to suck

Also, regarding the bolded, the Church asked for a lot more back in the day - to the tune of 10 percent of your income, which you paid by virtue of extortion, unless you wanted to have your ass excommunicated. It was actually one of the things that Martin Luther found objectionable

And, isn't the bolded the most important thing? If you go into a burger joint, and they shove religion down your throat, you have to ask yourself whether or not the burger is worth it. As you say, a business "should be able to do whatever they want"... (as long as it's legal). Now, if I were hammering out a business plan, I probably wouldn't include stuffing religion down people's throats anywhere, but hey, whatever...

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your dad sounds like a wise man.......


I also dont think i would shove anything down anyones throat unless they asked for it then the customer is always right

Isn't it though? Sad, but true...

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lol... definitely smarter than me


Well, exactly. If you wanted to open up a business like that - shoving religion down people's throats - God bless (no pun intended). It seems like a stupid business plan to me, but if you secure a loyal following of customers... hey, whatever

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I don't think a private business should be forced to post any signs to that effect, no ...

I do think it's stupid not to in this day and age, especially in politically correct good ole' US of A.

Ya i dont get it really

I am opening retail store that of course caters to law enforcement and the miltary and we are going to be playing war movies on a plasma screen tv and have some video games set up that are "shooting" related..........but that is the ganra of store and goes with it

I never thought burgers went with religion......and dont see the connection

well i think pram said it in his post

the fish or a sticker on the door i think would be in line with "PC" thinking and would atleast give the customer the heads up

this probably wouldnt be a conversation for me had i known it , we would of gone to see if the burgers were good, and it would been no surprise

the way they are doing it it makes it a issue

Agreed (regarding the burgers and religion). And, btw, congrats on opening your own store. That definitely sounds like a nice slice of the American Dream

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