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metalted · #1 (**permalink**) 05-23-2007

why does it seem so accurate? does anyone know about it? i had my report done and it freaked the hell out of me, and my gf too.. 123numerology.com

i tend to not believe anything that cant be explained with science or logic or be seen... but this puts everything i think and believe in question....

it picked out that i am a musician.. that i have charachteristics in my personality i associated with aspergers... and so many other things..

it picked out my girlfriend wanted to be a psychologist. and shit.. .. so wierd.. try it.

drgoodtrips · #2 (**permalink**) 05-23-2007

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Originally Posted by metalted

why does it seem so accurate?

Because, like any good sophistry or hocus-pocus, it relies on the power of suggestion in a passingly credible way.

And, whoever posts next, I sense that you have some sort of financial issue in your life right now. Either that, or some sort of family issue. I.... know.... alll......!

Speakeasy · #3 (**permalink**) 05-23-2007

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Originally Posted by drgoodtrips

Because, like any good sophistry or hocus-pocus, it relies on the power of suggestion in a passingly credible way.

And, whoever posts next, I sense that you have some sort of financial issue in your life right now. Either that, or some sort of family issue. I.... know.... alll......!

Get out of my head!

metalted · #4 (**permalink**) 05-23-2007

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Originally Posted by drgoodtrips

Because, like any good sophistry or hocus-pocus, it relies on the power of suggestion in a passingly credible way.

And, whoever posts next, I sense that you have some sort of financial issue in your life right now. Either that, or some sort of family issue. I.... know.... alll......!

thats what i thought before i tried it. thats what everyone thinks before they do it.. but its not that way.. its more involved.

drgoodtrips · #5 (**permalink**) 05-23-2007

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Originally Posted by metalted

thats what i thought before i tried it. thats what everyone thinks before they do it.. but its not that way.. its more involved.

So... it picked out that you play a musical instrument (pretty common) and it picked out aspects of a neurological disorder that you have arbitrarily decided you have? Pardon me if I'm less than impressed...

Also, could you list the guesses that were inaccurate as well, for the sake of comparison?

It's the same basic principle as people who claim they are "psychic" because they dreamed about something and then it happened. They quickly forget about the thousands of dreams they've had about things that never happened. I'm willing to be that arbitrary arithmetic procedures were able to "predict", algorithmically, a few things that made you say, "dude, whoah" and forget about all of the silly or nonsensical predictions it made.

drgoodtrips · #6 (**permalink**) 05-23-2007

Also, for example, consider that the practice of adding words over modulo 9 is going to cause certain results to be more common than others, depending on the lexicon from which we are operating. If I wanted to recruit some true believers, I would assign known personality aspects/professions/whatever accordingly. There are many, many ways to use statistical analysis to manipulate algorithmic data, just as there are many, many tricks up the sleeve of a "psychic", such as cold-reading and leading.

TheLastBoyScout · #7 (**permalink**) 05-23-2007

It's a hoax to make money. Rely on fortune cookies if you would like a more accurate reading of your personal life or your future.

Don't be fooled/used.

metalted · #8 (**permalink**) 05-23-2007

listen i know its easy to knock till you try it.. i thought the same things. and its fuckin strange... its based on your name.. basicallyi have a theory.,.\

that your name gives people unconcious perceptions of you.. first and last.. just as appearance and the way you dress ect... its a case.. i think that people will associate you with being a certain way and treat you a certain way since you are born. and as you grow up you become those traits.. nature verse nurture.. i really think there might be something to it...
it was incredibly detailed...

metalted · #9 (**permalink**) 05-23-2007

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Originally Posted by TheLastBoyScout

It's a hoax to make money. Rely on fortune cookies if you would like a more accurate reading of your personal life or your future.

Don't be fooled/used.

im not buying anything... its free

metalted · #10 (**permalink**) 05-23-2007

maybe your right but it accurately predicted my girlfriend would get a job this week. and told of her financial situation.. its fun to think its possible anyway.. it just seemed so real..

TheLastBoyScout · #11 (**permalink**) 05-23-2007

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listen i know its easy to knock till you try it.. i thought the same things. and its fuckin strange... its based on your name.. basicallyi have a theory.,.\

that your name gives people unconcious perceptions of you.. first and last.. just as appearance and the way you dress ect... its a case.. i think that people will associate you with being a certain way and treat you a certain way since you are born. and as you grow up you become those traits.. nature verse nurture.. i really think there might be something to it...
it was incredibly detailed...

Put in a fake name and fake birthdate. See if it can perceive that you are trying to fool it.

What is it anyway? What could it be other than a PHP or Perl script that sends out random pre-prepared vague responses?

MetalTed, If you'd be willing to share the email you received, I would find it entertaining.

metalted · #12 (**permalink**) 05-23-2007

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Originally Posted by TheLastBoyScout

Put in a fake name and fake birthdate. See if it can perceive that you are trying to fool it.

What is it anyway? What could it be other than a PHP or Perl script that sends out random pre-prepared vague responses?

MetalTed, If you'd be willing to share the email you received, I would find it entertaining.

no its based on an algorithm thing.. it assigns each of the letters in you name a number and adds them up continuosly untill it equals one number...
. ted T= 6 E= 3 D= 1
6+3+1 = 10 1+0 = 1 so i would be a one.. and one is associated with a certain personality trait.. also it goes by your birthday too.. but thats the basic idea.. no its not a real psychic phenomenon .. its a mathmatical equation.. where certain numbers are associated with different traits
i realise this and because you dont know me you wouldn really know or get it.. and would make fun of it.. you should do yours and post it then i will post mine.

metalted · #13 (**permalink**) 05-23-2007

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Numerology and numerological divination were popular among early mathematicians, such as Pythagoras, but are no longer considered part of mathematics and are regarded as pseudomathematics by most scientists. This is similar to the historical development of astronomy out of astrology, and chemistry from alchemy.
Today, numerology is often associated with the occult, alongside astrology and similar divinatory arts. The term can also be used for those who, in the view of some observers, place excess faith in numerical patterns, even if those people don't practice traditional numerology. For example, Underwood Dudley uses the term to discuss practitioners of the Elliott wave principle of stock market analysis.

funny i knew a stock broker who was in a band with me for awhile lol.. he was into some kind of wierd prediction thhing by following the bumps of the graph.. he says it was almost never wrong..

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Historians believe that modern numerology is an integration of the teachings from Ancient Babylonia, Pythagoras and his followers (6th century B.C. Greece), astrological philosophy from Hellenistic Alexandria, early Christian mysticism, the occultism of the early Gnostics and the Hebrew system of the Kabbalah. The Indian Vedas, the Chinese "Circle of the Dead", and the Egyptian "Book of the Master of the Secret House" (Ritual of the Dead) are records giving strong evidence that Numerology dates back thousands of years.
Pythagoras and other philosophers of the time believed that because mathematical concepts were more "practical" (easier to regulate and classify) than physical ones, they had greater actuality. This is an idea in harmony with philosophical pragmatism and a choice for permanent concepts over changeable physicality.
St. Augustine of Hippo (A.D. 354–430) wrote " Numbers are the Universal language offered by the deity to humans as confirmation of the truth." Similar to Pythagoras, he too believed that everything had numerical relationships and it was up to the mind to seek and investigate the secrets of these relationships or have them revealed by divine grace.
In 325 A.D., following the First Council of Nicaea, departures from the beliefs of the state Church were classified as civil violations within the Roman Empire. Numerology had not found favor with the Christian authority of the day. It was assigned to the field of unapproved beliefs along with astrology and other forms of divination and "magic." Through this religious purging, the spiritual significance assigned to the heretofore "sacred" numbers began to disappear. In spite of this suppression there were still many devout believers, who kept the secret knowledge locked away.
An example of the influence of numerology in English literature is Sir Thomas Browne's 1658 Discourse The Garden of Cyrus. In it the author illustrates that the number five and related Quincunx pattern throughout art, nature and mysticism. The Discourse is a late example of the influence of Pythagorean thought in English philosophy.
In some cases, in a type of numerological divination, the name and birth date of an individual will be used to analyze and define personality and propensities.

Numerology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

drgoodtrips · #14 (**permalink**) 05-23-2007

Of course, if we had not used the Arabic base ten system and instead opted for a hexadecimal system, all of our personalities would have to be re-evaluated.

metalted · #15 (**permalink**) 05-23-2007

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Of course, if we had not used the Arabic base ten system and instead opted for a hexadecimal system, all of our personalities would have to be re-evaluated.

lol///... why not? why cant everything in the world be associated with a number? maybe we are all just a bunch of numbers... like 0's and 1's in a computer program all put togethor.. what if the planet.. the universe was a computer program designed by a god of some kind???

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