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Re: Murder Park
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Then they are stupid, thus validating Mark's point.
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Also does the state have to pay their medical bills if the uninsured get shot but do not die? I am under the impression that the reason why motorcycle helmet laws exist is not just so Big Brother can meddle in the affairs of riders, but to lower the cost to the state of having to underwrite the medical bills of riders who sustain major head trauma.
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No do-over's and no time-outs.
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I wonder if a judge could order a retrial here in the states? Considering it's never happened I don't think so, but that's a scary thought.
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Do you have any reason for this calssification?
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But the first to come to mind would be the susceptibility to abuse if it were legally possible give someone the right to murder or enslave you. Imagine the power of "fine print" in such a scenario. Past events have demonstrated that 1) When people are desperate enough they can be convinced to agree to just about anything, no matter how stupid, and 2) There are always people willing to take maximum advantage of such desperation, regardless of the ruining effect on other people's lives. IMO, society would suffer substantially if slavery and murder became legally acceptable activities (provided the victim had, at some past point, agreed to accept them). Second, when it comes to giving away some rights, there's almost a Catch-22 regarding "soundness of mind". For example, considering the case of the German cannibal, one might convincingly argue that agreeing to be abused, murdered and eaten is, in-and-of-itself, sufficient evidence that you are not of sound mind and therefore unable to enter into a legally binding agreement. Regarding contracts that accept one party's murder by the other, it would be a legal nightmare to establish that the victim-party entered into the agreement, not only "of sound mind", but also free from duress or compulsion: after all, the victim-party cannot testify on his own behalf. The entire scenario is a moral, social and legal nightmare. EDITED: This entire discussion, however, does make me wonder precisely how many (and which) rights, in our existing system, it is impossible to give away. I hadn't really thought about it before. |
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My life is mine, and I can decide to keep it, or give it away. Furthermore, one does not have to die in Murder Park. Are you going to make all risky acts illegal?
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I'm against the idea because it seems so much like the Colosseum and gladiator battles in Rome. People killing for entertainment... The sheer barbarism of it is something I could not stand.
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Nonsense. Fewer motorcycle riders not wearing helmets means fewer medical expenses after motorcycle accidents.
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No, I don't really think it should be legal. It might make an interesting death sentence for criminals though...
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I'm sitting here contemplating this:
how does one allow another to cut off one's penis, and then you both "attempt" to eat it?
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