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Re: Go to hell - or not
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Re: Go to hell - or not
Many of the religions you mentioned don't have a hell to begin with. Some (Buddhism) have many adherents who don't consider their faith to be religions at all, but rather practices, or simply philosophies for living a decent life. You're also not making the distinction between traditional and world religions. Then there's the fact that not all Christians believe this.
It's really somewhat intellectually lazy to take such a simplistic approach to such a complex set of ideas. |
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I like to go by the theory that we have to act as if all people are going to heaven because we don't know anyone else's relationship with God, but our own.
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I type the X as a symbol of Christ carrying the cross - it was someting I adopted from a Xtian friend. It is not meant as disrespectful - I have nothing but respect for Christ, and what he had to say. However, like Ghandi, I sometimes wish that some of those who claim to follow him actually paid attention to his words. It's a problem that can be found in all religions.
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For example, while Hindus have Nirvana as a goal, they believe life circumstances show what you did in your last life, and they also believe in predestination. I'm not certain if uncaste nonhindus rank below Dalits. But everyone has the chance of reaching Nirvana eventually, I think. Exactly where am I being intellectually lazy?
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Some people here seem very quick to take offense where none is meant.
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For example, I believe that it is sinful for me to be a homosexual. However, this is my interpretation of the Bible, and because I am but a mere human, I might be way off. So, I will not be gay, but I will not condemn those who are.
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Maybe it was done simply for brevity. To suggest that he has no respect for christians, though? How Kreskin-like...
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The origin of that usage lies within Christianity itself. It's not the X of our alphabet, but the Χ (chi) of the Greek alphabet. The Oxford English Dictionary identifies 'Xmas' as informal, not as derogatory. It's also used in e.g. Χtal for 'crystal'.
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"Xtal" - that's funny Actually, when I saw "Xtian" for the first time I had no idea who or what people were talking about.
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It's quite common in the Catholic Church. The labarum (see previous link) is used by the catholic youth organization Chiro, the name itself being constituted from Chi-Rho, the Greek abbreviation of JC's name. |
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Greetings and Felicitations,
I would just like to point out that many versions of Buddhism have hell. In fact, they have a lot of them. Hells for this and hells for that. But. You don't get sentenced to hell for eternity. How long you get put there depends on what level of violation you have commmited. The Buddhist understand that commiting sins is based on unenlightened behavior and that you can overcome that behavior with development. Once you have suffered enough to point out the danger in your actions then you get out of hell and get the chance to further your enlightenment. Quote:
Just as a side note. The Buddhist do believe in gods. They just don't believe in a main figure that most Christians believe in. The gods are stuck in the veil of illusion (maya) just like we are. However, we have a better chance to escape from our illusions than the gods do. Why? Because they are stuck more deeply in their illusions because they are always being told they are great and ascended beings. What motivation do they have for change. In Peace, Eglaelin
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