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Old 08-07-2007
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Re: Experience at the Simpsons movie. Is this racist?

Yep, it's a teenager thing. I must be getting old. But I hate kids with the pants falling down around their ankles and the ear-splitting music and the loud talking crap. That's why I go to the movies in the moring, before noon. I am lucky in that I have some leeway in setting my own schedule. I can get away from the four-legged pigs for a few hours on a Friday morning and see a movie. It's cheaper and quieter.
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Re: Experience at the Simpsons movie. Is this racist?

If its not a race thing but a culture thing, then why respond in a race focused way?

Talk about being political!

What was the problem? Discourteous behavior. The ONLY way this can be connected to skin color is by assignment - this is the cultural aspect. That cultural aspect comes from both sides, them ...and you.

It was not wrong to be irritated and offended. It was wrong to use a racial slight to make a point which didn't address the problem at all - their discourteous behavior. All you did was reinforce the negative cultural aspect.
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Old 08-08-2007
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Re: Experience at the Simpsons movie. Is this racist?

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Right,

Like New Orleans Mayor Nagin saying to a press conference that "New Orleans will be a Chocolate City again". And then he gets re-elected.


See I appreciate guys like Carlos Mencia, he's an equal opportunity shit talker. But he even said, it's one thing that white people can not do.
I've seen a white comedian bring down down a predominantly black comedy club with laughter. It's a manner of approach. And he made jokes about all races. This was a long time ago though.
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Old 08-08-2007
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Re: Experience at the Simpsons movie. Is this racist?

Is it racist? No. Is it just blacks who do that in theaters? No.

On the other hand, stereotypes do exist because of the consistency of behavior of certain groups.

Living in both Houston and OKC (in OKC for now, coming back to Houston soon as I find a job there), as well as in Virginia, I have noticed that when its an earlier movie its pretty much just teenage misbehavior. If the movie is after about 9:00 though, I have never seen that consistently rude behavior out of anyone but blacks - of ALL ages.

I seem to remember that it is so widespread by blacks that more than a few black comedians - most notably Chris Rock and Eddie Murphy - make fun of it in their acts.

Kids are kids but when a 35 year old man or woman act that way, i cant help but notice they are ALWAYS people of color.
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Re: Experience at the Simpsons movie. Is this racist?

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If its not a race thing but a culture thing, then why respond in a race focused way?

Talk about being political!

What was the problem? Discourteous behavior. The ONLY way this can be connected to skin color is by assignment - this is the cultural aspect. That cultural aspect comes from both sides, them ...and you.

It was not wrong to be irritated and offended. It was wrong to use a racial slight to make a point which didn't address the problem at all - their discourteous behavior. All you did was reinforce the negative cultural aspect.
You mean I did not politely ignore the negative cultural aspect which was purposefully inconsiderate of everyone else's ability to enjoy the movie with out interruption.


I will leave you with the words of Arsenio Hall, who once said, "It's a black thang, and you would not understand"
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Re: Experience at the Simpsons movie. Is this racist?

All I will say is this.

There are certain sad truths to cultures here in America.

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Re: Experience at the Simpsons movie. Is this racist?

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You mean I did not politely ignore the negative cultural aspect which was purposefully inconsiderate of everyone else's ability to enjoy the movie with out interruption.


I will leave you with the words of Arsenio Hall, who once said, "It's a black thang, and you would not understand"
No. I mean, that if your aim was to do something about your problem, all you achieved was to compound it. I assumed, since you were complaining about it, that your intent was to somehow resolve it. My mistake. Carry on.

I will leave you with the words of my father: "don't stoop to their level, hunny"
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You mean I did not politely ignore the negative cultural aspect which was purposefully inconsiderate of everyone else's ability to enjoy the movie with out interruption.
Since you didn't address the inconsiderate behavior directly you might just as well have ignored it.
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All I will say is this.

There are certain sad truths to cultures here in America.

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I don't see any group that has much of a leg to stand on re culture.
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Old 08-16-2007
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Re: Experience at the Simpsons movie. Is this racist?

I found this thread to be mildly annoying. because it looks like a timmid way to find a way around political correctness to insult black people for no real apparent reason, except that some can be annoying in movie theaters and this is seen as a stain on black culture.. I am sorry if I do not understand it no offense to anyone.
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Re: Experience at the Simpsons movie. Is this racist?

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I don't see any group that has much of a leg to stand on re culture.
Of course not. But, certain domestic cultures are consistently louder in many settings. Of course, other cultures can be too, but not to the same consistent extent.

Please do not read anything into this beyond what I'm saying. This is simple, objective observation from twenty-one years of being a citizen of Louisiana.

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Old 08-21-2007
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Re: Experience at the Simpsons movie. Is this racist?

In my naturally limited personal experience I've found black people tend to be more boisterous* in comparison with other ethnic groups. As they say though, it has a lot more to do with culture than with skin color; and the influences on generalized cultural and sub-cultural behavior patterns are very diverse..
*(which in and of itself is neither good nor bad)
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Old 08-21-2007
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Re: Experience at the Simpsons movie. Is this racist?

Anybody who lives in Lousianna, or Houston, or Atlanta, knows exactly what this thread is about.

It's just that loud, obnoxious, ghetto mentality that seeks to offend the "White people". Well it works.


If it makes anyone feel better, I also find it annoying when some redneck pulls up in his oversized and loud pick up truck and just leaves it running while he gets out and does something else. I have experienced that so many times and I don't get it. Maybe there is some mechanical explanation for why they can not turn the engine off, but I get the feeling they are just like "I am ford tough man and I am gonna leave it runnin' so everybody has to listen to my truck, because that is what real men do"

And then there are those idiots who modify their exhaust pipes on their little econo cars. You can hear them almost red-line from a mile away but they have only moved about 10 feet. It's really pathetic.

I just find loud people to be very irritating. Who doesn't?
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And then there are those idiots who modify their exhaust pipes on their little econo cars. You can hear them almost red-line from a mile away but they have only moved about 10 feet. It's really pathetic.
I can relate to this. It seems for many young people scooters or sometimes cars dont have to move fast, they just have to sound fast.
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Old 08-22-2007
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Re: Experience at the Simpsons movie. Is this racist?

Poor neighborhoods seem to be louder than wealthy neighborhoods. I'm on the edge of an increasingly poor neighborhood and the traffic coming in and out is noticeably more obnoxious - they drive faster (much rubber left on the street), stereo's louder, yelling, trash flying out the windows...
It doesn't seem to be a matter of trying to offend another group so much as getting some attention. ???
Being in South Florida, the poor neighborhood is a mix of all kinds of people. African American, Mexican and Latin American, Bangladeshi and Indian, New York and Ohio transplants of all shapes and sizes, and displaced agriculture families.
Observations from the hood: I don't notice African American's being any different in any way (not trying to draw attention to themselves and succeeding); Mexican and/or Latin American's are trashy in a literal sense - it overflows from their houses, the trash bins, their cars and drops casually from the hands of young and old alike, I have no idea why; poor whites are the noisy ones by far and away - teens and young adults specifically but hardly exclusively; Indians/Bangladeshi - quiet, and never stay long.

But this is one specific neighborhood with its own unique dynamics.
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