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Where did you get your info, Andrew?
I have a minor degree in classics from many years ago, but i used Wikipedia to quickly refresh my memory - which may or may not have been accurate.

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And Christianity has shades of Mithras. etc.

It is the supreme arrogance of a religion to assume that it is solely the product of a commune with God and is not the result of centuries of spiritual evolution/adaptation.
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You say that Judaism has been around for 4500 years, but it's not really the same in anything except name. Have you ever read any Spong?
No i have not read Spong, or heard of him till now.

I agree though. I think the 4500 years is base only on Abraham, and that is age is only an estimate, and the fact of Abrahams existence in the first place is less than certain. But the Jews do have a continuity that is quite old, surprisingly. Much older than Christianity or Islam.

And yes, a religion changes over time like any other human institution.

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I have a minor degree in classics from many years ago, but i used Wikipedia to quickly refresh my memory - which may or may not have been accurate.

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I was always under the impression that any dates, especially concerning the beginings of the Greek (and to a lesser extent Roman) religions, were extremely haphazard and speculative. I could be totally off base though.
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I was always under the impression that any dates, especially concerning the beginings of the Greek (and to a lesser extent Roman) religions, were extremely haphazard and speculative. I could be totally off base though.
You are correct. Its based almost entirely on whatever surviving literature and any mention of the gods that we can reliably date. I.e., if we are confident that something that mentions these gods is written in say ~500 BC than we can establish a lower limit. But Donkey is right, it most likely would have a much longer history before it was ever written down.

I would not put too much into the dates. We can probably be more certain about the roman gods than the greek ones though. Like i said, in some form they probably go back thousands of years.

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You are correct. Its based almost entirely on whatever surviving literature and any mention of the gods that we can reliably date. I.e., if we are confident that something that mentions these gods is written in say ~500 BC than we can establish a lower limit. But Donkey is right, it most likely would have a much longer history before it was ever written down.

I would not put too much into the dates. We can probably be more certain about the roman gods than the greek ones though. Like i said, in some form they probably go back thousands of years.

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ahh, I see. Thanks for clearing that up.
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How long did Greek and Roman Mythology last as accepted religions? And I want pretty specific stuff here. I am interested and I know there are some pretty smart people here. So, help me out!
Considering the nature of your question I have a statement to make. You did not ask when the Greek and Roman gods were developed. You asked how long Greek and Roman mythology lasted as an accepted religion. There are plenty of Pagans and Wiccans who still believe in them so they haven't completely died out. In accord with that statement the Greek and Roman gods have a much longer history than Christianity. I would not be certain about Jewish mythology since it has its roots in Zoarastrianism.

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