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Old 09-21-2007
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Re: Do corporations have any moral responsibility?

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And yes the corporate entity has ethical responsibilities just like the individual.
Just for curiosity, how and why?
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Old 11-26-2007
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Do corporations have any moral responsibility?

The Chinese police state is a great investment says US hedge funds.

The US economy may be on decline but US hedge funds investors considers the Chinese police state to be a good investment for our global economy.

“China’s Hot Stock: Orwell Inc” is the headlines over an article in the NYTimes published September 19, 2007.

“In a stunning report in the New York Times last week, correspondent Keith Bradsher documented the rise of China's electronic surveillance industry, whose leading companies have incorporated themselves in the United States and obtained the lion's share of their capital from U.S. hedge funds. Though ostensibly private, these companies are a for-profit adjunct of the Chinese government.”

Do US corporations have any moral responsibility to the citizens of the US?

Do US corporations have any moral responsibility to the people living on this planet?
Corporations have legal responsibilities (or requirements).

If one wishes to be able to hold a corporation accountable for certain actions in a legal sense, then one needs to enact it into law.

Now this doesn't alter the fact that people can have their own reactions to decisions they disagree with. And those reactions might be sufficient to sway the corporation (the leadership of said corporation) in question to alter the objectionable behavior. But it doesn't necessarily compel them to do so.
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Old 11-26-2007
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Re: Do corporations have any moral responsibility?

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You are correct, citizens must safe guard morality by passing laws that will better control the behavior of corporations.
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Old 11-26-2007
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You are correct, citizens must safe guard morality by passing laws that will better control the behavior of corporations.

Morality is subjective. A society may have interests, such as upholding foundational principles, which can be a basis for laws to circumscribe behavior.
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Old 12-04-2007
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Corporations have legal responsibilities (or requirements).

If one wishes to be able to hold a corporation accountable for certain actions in a legal sense, then one needs to enact it into law.

Now this doesn't alter the fact that people can have their own reactions to decisions they disagree with. And those reactions might be sufficient to sway the corporation (the leadership of said corporation) in question to alter the objectionable behavior. But it doesn't necessarily compel them to do so.
Make it law that to operate in your country, a certain number of jobs must be kept in your country. Preferably high paying. If you are the biggest consumer market and therefore the biggest source of profit you should get the largest share of high paying jobs.
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Old 12-05-2007
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Morality is subjective. A society may have interests, such as upholding foundational principles, which can be a basis for laws to circumscribe behavior.

Every idea is a bit subjective because thinking is 100% subjective and thinking is an integral part of everything we consider to be reality. We create reality in accord with what our senses tell us. If we do not do a good job then we do not survive as a species.

If a society determines that children should not labor in certain ways then that society creates laws to enforce that moral decision. If a society decides that business must pay a minimum wage because that is proper morality then that society can create laws to enforce that moral decision.
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Re: Do corporations have any moral responsibility?

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Every idea is a bit subjective because thinking is 100% subjective and thinking is an integral part of everything we consider to be reality. We create reality in accord with what our senses tell us. If we do not do a good job then we do not survive as a species.
Reality is not dependent on human perceptions of it.

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If a society determines that children should not labor in certain ways then that society creates laws to enforce that moral decision. If a society decides that business must pay a minimum wage because that is proper morality then that society can create laws to enforce that moral decision.
Those decisions can also have utilitarian basis.
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Old 12-05-2007
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Re: Do corporations have any moral responsibility?

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You are correct, citizens must safe guard morality by passing laws that will better control the behavior of corporations.
I disagree. Citizens must safe guard society by passing laws, including those that determine illegal behavior of corporations.

The process of legislation may be morally informed but law is not morality. If it was then everything immoral would be outlawed and everything outlawed would be immoral. Clearly - and naturally - neither is the case. A law is not justified by morality but by the affect on society and the rights and privileges of its citizens (or, in less free and less democratic societies, on the effect of whatever body that claims to represent society).

As for the question in the topic title, a corporation has the legal responsibilities as the body it is legally defined and authorized as. Since law is not morality, it does not imply any moral responsibility.

If the discussion turns to the stretch of actions that a corporation can get away with and still be a corporation, then we may discuss how prevailing moral views can control those actions and thus create an illusion of some moral responsibility. But that kind of responsibility is merely aimed towards its own existence.
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Old 12-05-2007
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Re: Do corporations have any moral responsibility?

Very true, laws in and of themselves, do not hold to moral or ethical standards, but hopefully the people that draft them do. Corporations are run by people, who may or may not have moral or ethical standards in agreement with their customer's, suppliers or buyers.
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Old 12-06-2007
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Of course not. A corporation (a for-profit corporation) exists only to limit legal and financial liability and maximize ROI to stockholders.
The brush you paint with is too broad

Incorporation alone simply facilitates the ability to function effectively in the commercial world.
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