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Old 09-27-2007
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Re: The Science of Prophecy.

Russia will make an allaince out of convienence to the moslems. (see putin visits tehran) And the war will start because of an assassination of a leader in the balkans. think back, Russia considers itself to be a protector of the serbs, the serbs are culturally and ethnically very similiar to the russians.

Now take a look at whats going on today.. Disagreements between russia and america over kosovan independence with serbia..

The war will be rather short but extremely deadly.. with poison gass clouds...Remember there is going to be nukes, but nukes are most likely going to be used against military instalations... (Half of the war is going to be the booty)
"and strange soldiers will come from the east to germany rape and pillage with out regard.. Sounds to me like moslem fighters.

Russia will make an alliance out of its convienance.. and will hit america along the west coast.. preventing american assitance to europe. russia will later change sides.. and In the end we will be victorious. This is the culimination of a series of prophecies I am looking through.
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Re: The Science of Prophecy.

ok the anti christ guy to come out of iran is not leader.. there has to be an overthrow of a theocratic regime.. either it can come out of a war with iran by america.. or by an overthrow by the citizens of iran.. some kind of killing of a leader in iran will bring him to power.. so dont think you can proactively change the future with war.. war is the expected course you would take, and thus the expected prophecy. in order to change the future you must do the unexpected. This is my understand of prophecy and my interpretation of hundreds of prophecies.
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Russia will make an allaince out of convienence to the moslems. (see putin visits tehran) And the war will start because of an assassination of a leader in the balkans. think back, Russia considers itself to be a protector of the serbs, the serbs are culturally and ethnically very similiar to the russians.

Now take a look at whats going on today.. Disagreements between russia and america over kosovan independence with serbia..

The war will be rather short but extremely deadly.. with poison gass clouds...Remember there is going to be nukes, but nukes are most likely going to be used against military instalations... (Half of the war is going to be the booty)
"and strange soldiers will come from the east to germany rape and pillage with out regard.. Sounds to me like moslem fighters.

Russia will make an alliance out of its convienance.. and will hit america along the west coast.. preventing american assitance to europe. russia will later change sides.. and In the end we will be victorious. This is the culimination of a series of prophecies I am looking through.
Why do you not read some science fiction instead? It is more fun, better written, and does not hold itself out to be true, just plausible.
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Re: The Science of Prophecy.

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This is my understand of prophecy and my interpretation of hundreds of prophecies.
How many and what languages do you speak and read in?

Nostrodamus' prophesies didn't originate in English you know...
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You forgot one of the most important ones Speakeasy! Indeed, it was Nostradamus' specialty in fact!

*Best to use multiple languages when constructing prophesies for the maximum possible number of variations of interpretations.
Crap, I knew I missed one!

I predict there will be a second edition of "How to be a Prophet...Today!"
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Re: The Science of Prophecy.

yes I know, I have had some help in that area. Listen I know you dont want to believe this, but every prophet basically says that the only way to prevent it... is basically returning to spirtuality. and pray blessing prayers for your enemys, for your country, for your leaders, for everyone.. to return to church and do good works. Jesus said 'whatever you ask in my name I will do."
I believe this because I have no choice. Ponder everything I say deeply do not write it off so easily...If you dismiss this as to frightening to comprehend,, or to illogical as it is beyond the reach of the science that you are able to understand, you are doomed because you do not ponder or wonder about the world, about your existence, about a higher power, about your purpose. you do not desire to find a deeper meaning or a deeper understanding of the world.

and think the meaning of life is to eat fuck sleep and die. Then that will be your end.
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Re: The Science of Prophecy.

I think that the meaning of life is to eat, sleep, fuck, and die.

With commas.
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I think that the meaning of life is to eat, sleep, fuck, and die.

With commas.
I think fucking should come before sleep.
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Re: The Science of Prophecy.

A man named branham talks of a woman in leadership role in america during the nuclear war...

And edgar cayce predicted that women would get right to vote, and in doing so would elect the wrong man. ( I have some feeling it might be obama, women might vote for him because he is "cute") and those two might be be president and vice president after this election..

Also prophecy speaks of a possibility a facistic christian take over, (the kind liberals fear so much) But these are not spirtual people.

I saw the speach by abmadinijab, talking about his wait for the 'times of the great mahdi' The great mahdi is a military leader to assist in the conquest of the world. These people want the apocalpse to happen. and may very well succede.
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Re: The Science of Prophecy.

Les quatre cavaliers de l'apocalypse apparaitrons sous la forme d'une armée gigantesque, d'un continent suicidaire, d'un soleil vert et d'un peuple de clowns.

(my prediction for ~2100)
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Re: The Science of Prophecy.

The four horsemen of the apolcalypse will appear in the form of an gigantic army, from a suicidal continent, of a green sun and a people of clowns.

OK. I buy that.
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Re: The Science of Prophecy.

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I think that the meaning of life is to eat, sleep, fuck, and die.

With commas.
Maybe eatfucksleep is some form of cannibalistic sex for narcoleptics ?
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The following extraordinary Hopi prophecy was first published in a mimeographed manuscript that circulated among several Methodist and Presbyterian churches in 1959. Some of the prophecies were published in 1963 by Frank Waters in The Book of the Hopi. The account begins by describing how, while driving along a desert highway one hot day in the summer of 1958, a minister named David Young stopped to offer a ride to an Indian elder, who accepted with a nod. After riding in silence for several minutes, the Indian said:

"I am White Feather, a Hopi of the ancient Bear Clan. In my long life I have traveled through this land, seeking out my brothers, and learning from them many things full of wisdom. I have followed the sacred paths of my people, who inhabit the forests and many lakes in the east, the land of ice and long nights in the north, and the places of holy altars of stone built many years ago by my brothers' fathers in the south. From all these I have heard the stories of the past, and the prophecies of the future. Today, many of the prophecies have turned to stories, and few are left -- the past grows longer, and the future grows shorter.

"And now White Feather is dying. His sons have all joined his ancestors, and soon he too shall be with them. But there is no one left, no one to recite and pass on the ancient wisdom. My people have tired of the old ways -- the great ceremonies that tell of our origins, of our emergence into the Fourth World, are almost all abandoned, forgotten, yet even this has been foretold. The time grows short.

"My people await Pahana, the lost White Brother, [from the stars] as do all our brothers in the land. He will not be like the white men we know now, who are cruel and greedy. we were told of their coming long ago. But still we await Pahana.

"He will bring with him the symbols, and the missing piece of that sacred tablet now kept by the elders, given to him when he left, that shall identify him as our True White Brother.

"The Fourth World shall end soon, and the Fifth World will begin. This the elders everywhere know. The Signs over many years have been fulfilled, and so few are left.

"This is the First Sign: We are told of the coming of the white-skinned men, like Pahana, but not living like Pahana men who took the land that was not theirs. And men who struck their enemies with thunder.

"This is the Second Sign: Our lands will see the coming of spinning wheels filled with voices. In his youth, my father saw this prophecy come true with his eyes -- the white men bringing their families in wagons across the prairies."

"This is the Third Sign: A strange beast like a buffalo but with great long horns, will overrun the land in large numbers. These White Feather saw with his eyes -- the coming of the white men's cattle."

"This is the Fourth Sign: The land will be crossed by snakes of iron."

"This is the Fifth Sign: The land shall be criss-crossed by a giant spider's web."

"This is the Sixth sign: The land shall be criss-crossed with rivers of stone that make pictures in the sun."

"This is the Seventh Sign: You will hear of the sea turning black, and many living things dying because of it."

"This is the Eight Sign: You will see many youth, who wear their hair long like my people, come and join the tribal nations, to learn their ways and wisdom.

"And this is the Ninth and Last Sign: You will hear of a dwelling-place in the heavens, above the earth, that shall fall with a great crash. It will appear as a blue star. Very soon after this, the ceremonies of my people will cease.

"These are the Signs that great destruction is coming. The world shall rock to and fro. The white man will battle against other people in other lands -- with those who possessed the first light of wisdom. There will be many columns of smoke and fire such as White Feather has seen the white man make in the deserts not far from here. Only those which come will cause disease and a great dying. Many of my people, understanding the prophecies, shall be safe. Those who stay and live in the places of my people also shall be safe. Then there will be much to rebuild. And soon -- very soon afterward -- Pahana will return. He shall bring with him the dawn of the Fifth World. He shall plant the seeds of his wisdom in their hearts. Even now the seeds are being planted. These shall smooth the way to the Emergence into the Fifth World.

"But White Feather shall not see it. I am old and dying. You -- perhaps will see it. In time, in time..."

The old Indian fell silent. They had arrived at his destination, and Reverend David Young stopped to let him out of the car. They never met again. Reverend Young died in 1976, so he did not live to see the further fulfillment of this remarkable prophecy.

The signs are interpreted as follows: The First Sign is of guns. The Second Sign is of the pioneers' covered wagons. The Third Sign is of longhorn cattle. The Fourth Sign describes the railroad tracks. The Fifth Sign is a clear image of our electric power and telephone lines. The Sixth Sign describes concrete highways and their mirage-producing effects. The Seventh Sign foretells of oil spills in the ocean. The Eighth Sign clearly indicates the "Hippy Movement" of the 1960s. The Ninth Sign was the U.S. Space Station Skylab, which fell to Earth in 1979. According to Australian eye-witnesses, it appeared to be burning blue.

Another Hopi prophecy warns that nothing should be brought back from the Moon -- obviously anticipating the Apollo 11 mission that returned with samples of lunar basalt. It this was done, the Hopi warned, the balance of natural and universal laws and forces would be disturbed, resulting in earthquakes, severe changes in weather patterns, and social unrest. All these things are happening today, though of course not necessarily because of Moon rocks.

The Hopi also predicted that when the "heart" of the Hopi land trust is dug up, great disturbances will develop in the balance of nature, for the Hopi holy land is the microcosmic image of the entire planet; any violations of nature in the Four Corners region will be reflected and amplified all over the Earth.

In 1959, a six-man delegation of traditional Hopi leaders led by the late spiritual leader, Dan Katchongva, traveled to the United Nations Building in New York to fulfill a sacred mission in accordance with ancient Hopi instructions. Because of their prophetic knowledge, the Hopi leaders felt it was time to go east to the edge of their motherland, where "a house of mica" [The United Nations building] would stand at this time, where Great Leaders from many lands would be gathered to help any people who are in trouble."

They were to go when the motherland of the Hopi and other Indian brothers were about to be taken away from them and their way of life was in danger of being completely destroyed by evil ones among the White Men and by some other Indian brothers who were influenced by the White Race. This is a clear and present danger: the betrayal of Indian-U.S.A. treaties, land sales, and coal and uranium mining are destroying the Hopi land and its people -- and all other peoples and lands, in eventual effect...

According to prophecy, at least one, two or three leaders or nations would hear and understand the Hopi warnings, as "It is told that they too should know these ancient instructions". Upon hearing the message of the Hopi, they would act immediately to correct many wrongs being done to the chosen race -- the Red Man who was granted permission to hold in trust all land and life for the Great Spirit. This prophecy would seem to have failed. Hopi prophecy also declares that the doors of the "Glass House" would be closed to them. This was the case at first, though they have delivered their message to the United Nations Assembly since then:

"When the Great Leaders in the Glass House refuse to open the door to you when you stand before it that day, [Repeated, again in 1993] do not be discouraged or turn about on the path you walk, but take courage, determination, and be of great rejoicing in your hearts, for on that day the White Race who are on your land with you have cut themselves from you and thereon lead themselves to the Greatest Punishment at the Day of Purification. Many shall be destroyed for their sins and evil ways. The Great Spirit has decreed it and no one can stop it, change it, or add anything to it. It shall be fulfilled!"
http://www.welcomehome.org/rainbow/prophecy/hopi1.html

fascinating though isn't it? Or is it terrifying?
How can so many people predict essentially the same things regardless of faith or culture or nation... The great day of purification..Everything is way to wierd its surreal.. yet how can you deny it?
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Maybe eatfucksleep is some form of cannibalistic sex for narcoleptics ?
Would one of you check my translation in the above post please?

I should have gone with my first translation instinct:
The four horsemen of the apocalypse ghosts under a gigantic army (picturing "dog pile on the four horsemen ghosts"), of a happy suicide, under a true sun and a purple clown.

That could be interesting too though.
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I think fucking should come before sleep.
It usually does, doesn't it?

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