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Old 10-15-2007
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Re: What if Judaism, Christianity and Islam confused the lessons imparted to Humanity

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Um...somehow I feel Hinduism should have made that list, given that it has about a billion adherents and all.
Perhaps you are right regarding number of adherents but, I said POWERFUL not largest in size.

Major Religions of the World Ranked by Number of Adherents

Christianity: 2.1 billion

Islam: 1.5 billion

Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist: 1.1 billion

Hinduism: 900 million

Chinese traditional religion: 394 million

Buddhism: 376 million

primal-indigenous: 300 million

African Traditional & Diasporic: 100 million

Sikhism: 23 million

Juche: 19 million

Spiritism: 15 million

Judaism: 14 million

Baha'i: 7 million

Jainism: 4.2 million

Shinto: 4 million

Cao Dai: 4 million

Zoroastrianism: 2.6 million

Tenrikyo: 2 million

Neo-Paganism: 1 million

Unitarian-Universalism: 800 thousand

Rastafarianism: 600 thousand

Scientology: 500 thousand

Groups Not Included in This List of World Religions
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Re: What if Judaism, Christianity and Islam confused the lessons imparted to Humanity

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"Thou shalt not murder" would be a whole lot more impressive if people didn't wrap themselves up in pretzels trying to prove that killing some people sometimes, isn't murder.

Capital punishment and just war are the two most common examples.
A religion whose believers woudn't have the right to kill at all would not have any followers by now... they would all have been killed by christians/jews/muslims
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A religion whose believers woudn't have the right to kill at all would not have any followers by now... they would all have been killed by christians/jews/muslims
Dang it, people! Let's not forget those Hindus!
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Dang it, people! Let's not forget those Hindus!
Well yeah, hindus and buddhists would also help murdering those stupid hippies.
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I wasn't aware that there is a proselytizing requirement in Judaism.
How prevalent is this movement? Do they really entice palestinian children ?
Uh, where did I say there was?
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Uh, where did I say there was?
I was only making comment on your post regarding MetalTed

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If it's Jews forcing their beliefs on Palestinians, is his position, I think.
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On this planet there are Three Major, extremely powerful Religious groups.
Judaism, Christianity and Islam

They all portend to promote, promulgate and adhere to the same precepts
yet, they have gone to war, one against the other, seeking to supress each other.

What if Judaism, Christianity and Islam confused the lessons imparted to Humanity?

Or is it as simple as human frailty and the inability to conform and adhere to these principles?

Is it really that hard to adhere to the principle of THOU SHALT NOT MURDER ?


Or is it like GWAR says:

"War is all we know" ?
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Re: What if Judaism, Christianity and Islam confused the lessons imparted to Humanity

I'm still not quite clear on who was imparting the lessons that the Jews, Christians and Muslims may have confused.
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I was only making comment on your post regarding MetalTed
In other words, you accused me of making a statement I didn't make?
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Is it really that hard to adhere to the principle of THOU SHALT NOT MURDER ?
What I don't understand is that each of these religions frowns upon murder, correct?? How, then, do they justify going to war with another?

You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you. (Matthew 5:43)

So if you were, in this case, a Christian who was prejudiced against Jewish people or against Islamic people, how could you justify killing them? Perhaps the bible says its ok to ignore people that you really don't like, but you are supposed to love not only your neighbor but your enemies!! why is this so hard to do?
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Re: What if Judaism, Christianity and Islam confused the lessons imparted to Humanity

loving your enemies is extraordinarily difficult. Only the best among us can achieve this. To love your enemy as yourself. this is the way of Godliness, who among us can say that we have done this in every aspect of our lives.. that we have not cursed in atleast one instance some one who has cursed us.. that we have not atleast in thought sought revenge against someone who has injured us.. From the school yard to the work place.. to even our family and nieghboorhood quarells..

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What I don't understand is that each of these religions frowns upon murder, correct?? How, then, do they justify going to war with another?

You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you. (Matthew 5:43)
Ok it's not like all the people in Christianity and Islam are saying we should kill each other, it's a fringe groups who pick and choose which parts of the holy texts they want to listen too.

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So if you were, in this case, a Christian who was prejudiced against Jewish people or against Islamic people, how could you justify killing them? Perhaps the bible says its ok to ignore people that you really don't like, but you are supposed to love not only your neighbor but your enemies!! why is this so hard to do?
while not killing someone maybe fairly easy, actually loving your neighbor (especially in the way the Christ mandates) is almost impossible. The standard Christ holds up is very hard.
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"Thou shalt not murder" would be a whole lot more impressive if people didn't wrap themselves up in pretzels trying to prove that killing some people sometimes, isn't murder.

Capital punishment and just war are the two most common examples.
Is it your contention that all killing is murder? Are you of the belief that all killing is bad?

I submit to you that capital punishment is not murder. It is a penalty for an action someone willfully undertook, knowing the consequence could mean his own life.

What about killing in self defense? Do you consider that murder? To claim that it is would require you to believe one is morally and legally obligated to throw his own life away once someone else desires to take it.

War? I cannot call that murder either. Murder is the unjustified killing of another. It IS morally and legally justified to kill others in a war.

In my opinion, those who believe all killing is wrong and all human life is valid are really just people bereft of convictions.
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Is it your contention that all killing is murder? Are you of the belief that all killing is bad?
Not at all.

My point is that killing is killing.

Killing soldiers in war is killing. Executing criminals is killing. Aborting babies is killing.

I don't have a problem with killing. I have a problem with the hypocracy that can't accept that some killing is legal, some killing is illegal and the distinction is pretty much arbitrary, subjective and entirely political in actuality.

Killing human beings can never be moral.
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Not at all.

My point is that killing is killing.

Killing soldiers in war is killing. Executing criminals is killing. Aborting babies is killing.

I don't have a problem with killing. I have a problem with the hypocracy that can't accept that some killing is legal, some killing is illegal and the distinction is pretty much arbitrary, subjective and entirely political in actuality.

Killing human beings can never be moral.
You think it's immoral but you don't have a problem with it?
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