Ah, yes why deal in troublesome facts when phoney outrage will suffice eh?

Good luck playing in your rage cage..

How pathetic that you not only don't show any outrage for the wife-beaters, you try projecting your piss-poor judgement onto me.

I think a lot of us have your number when it comes to women's isssues.

[edit] *Chirp, chirp, chirp...* [/edit]

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Welcome to politically correct Britain 2008. We dare not disagree with any minority group for fear we offend those who take offense on behalf of the minoirities.... Rarely does it offend the minorities themselves - just the PC loons who like to be offended for them.....

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The Sharia courts would trump UK law if, and only if, resort to them means that no action can be taken in a British court that would override any ruling made by the Sharia court. Since the women referred to withdrew their charges in court against their husbands in a separate action from the Sharia court's ruling, clearly that's not the case. If they had wanted to, they could have continued to press charges and, if I'm not mistaken, the British court's ruling, not that of the Sharia court, would have been the final binding decision.

I share the general outrage against misogynistic Muslim law and culture; however, the fault here does not, I think, lie in British law.

Incidentally, I was myself a victim in an abusive marriage. (No, it's not always the man who's the culprit.) So I have absolutely no patience with domestic violence.

B..b...bb.....bbb...but the muslims, the religions ...taking over in merry ole england where political correctness has gone maaaaad!

No it's not the man who is the perp; and it's good to see a man who is man enough to mention it. I'm glad you got away from it, too.

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That's the annoying thing - it isn't 'the muslims' or any other religion.... it's those to think it is their job to be offended on behalf of muslims. It sure isn't the Muslims themselves - most of whom couldn't give a rats behind about the stuff that they are 'offended' by.

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Can you name any of these people?

Certainly can. I have several friends who are Muslim!

Obviously, I'm not going to name them on an internet forum.

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You weren't talking about Muslims:

I believe Chocobot was asking if you could name some of these non-Muslims who think it is their job to be offended on behalf of Muslims.

I'm not sure why not, although I can see why you wouldn't want to divulge the names of your Muslim friends. Maybe some of these non-Muslims -- certainly the ones with clout, and who matter -- have names that are already revealed to the public, so that revealing them on an internet forum wouldn't be an issue.

yes, one thing that puzzles me is that the 'offended' are seldom named by the press. its mostly hearsay on hearsay on hearsay.

I don't know. Sometimes it seems your press actually jumps the gun on saying who is offended: Daily Express | UK News :: Sniffer dogs offend Muslims

As it turned out, the Muslim community didn't really give a damn about the practice, yet your press said they did.

I think that may be the type of situation to which CG was referring, just for example.

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yes, thank you.

this illustrates the point, who exactly is offended here? no one it seems.

Right, which is why I posted that. It illustrates the point CG made in her post above.

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A lot of its from tabloids TBH-you can never really trust them. The amount of refractions the Daily Mail (in particular) publishes is quite incredable.

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