The thing that bothers me about the whole gay Marriage issue is the level at which it diverts our attention from real political issues.

All my righty tighty friends that feel so strongly about saving Marriage from the so called heathens place this issue at the top of the list. I tell them it is important that they maintain the right to choose to preserve Marriage in their own church. That passing laws against gay Marriage only diminishes their right to choose. Churches can decide for themselves and the rest can go to City Hall or their own Church.

My question is this - Why not start a gay religion? that way gays can get married based on the rights of their own beliefs.

I would suggest something like "the Church of Gay Jesus" People who believe that Jesus was Judas's gay lover, who was jealous of Marry Magdalena's affections towards Jesus and betrayed Jesus for that reason.

So why not?

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A religion based on who you want to have sex with... it's just so crazy it might ACTUALLY WORK!!!

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No, Tifffany Mynx, Jasmine Byrne, Erica Boyer and all the hot girls I knew in High School don't return my fantasy calls!

Oh, wait, that's just like religion.

Never mind.

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Because it's irrelevant? There's nothing stopping a homosexual couple from having marriage ceremonies. The problem is only four states recognize the marriage in a legal-contractual-financial sense. Homosexuals don't want marriage rights, they just want the legal rights that go with it. No one needs another church for that.

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The American Episcopal Church beat you to it

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Hope is the opposite of audacity. It's passive, an excuse for inaction.

Socialism doesn't create a rising tide that lifts all boats. It drains the lake and teaches the boat riders not to help themselves by rowing.

“What's the difference between Sarah Palin and Barack Obama?”

“One is a well turned-out, good-looking, and let's be honest, pretty sexy piece of eye-candy.

“The other kills her own food.”

So this has nothing to do with the Church or the morally ritcheous? In other words this is all about keeping one group of people at a lower level then the rest? Equal civil rights denied?

I recommend they make the new church just to piss the lofty off.

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If you wish to see this as a religious issue then you have to accept that its seen by all major ones as wrong.

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Hope is the opposite of audacity. It's passive, an excuse for inaction.

Socialism doesn't create a rising tide that lifts all boats. It drains the lake and teaches the boat riders not to help themselves by rowing.

“What's the difference between Sarah Palin and Barack Obama?”

“One is a well turned-out, good-looking, and let's be honest, pretty sexy piece of eye-candy.

“The other kills her own food.”

You only asked why not start a gay religion. I only say because doing so serves no purpose.

If you want to argue the merits of the civil rights issues, I can't. I don't like marriage period, or the tax breaks that come with it. Why I don't get a tax break because I live with four roommates but someone else does because they live with one, I don't get.

If you want to argue the merits of starting a religion to piss of others, I won't. Spite isn't the greatest of reasons to do anything.

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Gays should be permitted to get married in whatever church the grew up attending if it allows it. The Unitarian Church, at least the ones out here in Northern California, allow any humans over 18 to be married. I know a gay fellow who has a licence to marry people as well and does.

But don't you even see the mean spiritedness in suggesting gays get married somewhere else? Judging by the tone of your post you're not going to be getting invitations to too many gay weddings. You probably won't be in the bedrooms of gays couples. So why would you care about something you'll never affect, and it won't affect you?

Just like interacial couples fought for and won the right to marry, gays will too before you and I are dead. That means you are on the backward side of progress. Like people who thought the Wright Brothers were blasphemers, or the guys who thought Epileptics were possessed and burnt them.

So why is it of such great interest for you to try and dictate how these free Americans live thier lives?

I just wish to see it as a non-political issue. I would like a separate church and State as they say. Regardless of the beliefs of most - that's irrelevant. As the freedom of belief for of ALL is a constitutional right. Right?

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Because it messes with my politics. Hey - I'm just trying to help them out! Besides how free are they if they are denied their Constitutional rights?

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you can't reason with righty tighties - this is an obvious civil rights discrimination in our society. Time to think outside the box.

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Freedom of religion is a constitutional right. I see nothing preventing this though I'm sure homosexuals will feel less welcome in some churches than in others. Of course the same could be said of people who like to dance or dress flashy.

It became a political issue when homosexuals wanted access to a societal construct for which they do not qualify. Same as if people who are shacking up or spinsters would see should they have gone looking for the same treatment.

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Hope is the opposite of audacity. It's passive, an excuse for inaction.

Socialism doesn't create a rising tide that lifts all boats. It drains the lake and teaches the boat riders not to help themselves by rowing.

“What's the difference between Sarah Palin and Barack Obama?”

“One is a well turned-out, good-looking, and let's be honest, pretty sexy piece of eye-candy.

“The other kills her own food.”

And so the solution to the obvious civil rights discrimination in our society is to have homosexuals start a church on the basis of Jesus being a homosexual?

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There is no secret ingredient.

How is it the same when homosexuals are denied an alternative to "shaking up"?

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