Greetings and Felicitations,

Here is a hint. I am an atheist. Your usage of "karma" and "yang energy" is mind tripe. It has nothing to do with reality whatsoever. My brain does my thinking. The mind is just an awareness of the gestalt of those processes. It has no independent existence outside of my brain.

Sincerely Yours,
C. David Neely

All we are seeing today is communism under a different shape.

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"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, ... That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men,"
-Declaration of Independence

Two truths that many Americans seem to have forgotten:
1. Men are endowed by God with inalienable rights.
2. Government's purpose is to secure man's God-given rights.

No, that's not what we're seeing.

And I guess, you still have nothing to add to this conversation.



Nothing.

Not sure, but most seem to congregate on this board.

You got anything to back up that statement?

Let's see, politicians continue to claim that they need more money, power and programs all to supposedly help the common man. They are definitely trying to move this country in the direction of communism. Karl Marx argued that first comes socialism then the society moves gradually from there into communism. Obama's programs are definitely socialist. Government run health care, all the bailouts, a lot of his welfare ideas, etc.

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"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, ... That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men,"
-Declaration of Independence

Two truths that many Americans seem to have forgotten:
1. Men are endowed by God with inalienable rights.
2. Government's purpose is to secure man's God-given rights.

You got anything to back up your contention that what we're now seeing is communism but "under a different shape"? Let's see here.....Yawn. They've been doing that since before Marx and it's not indicative of communism.For which you, as usual, offer zero support other than you just saying that it's so. Sorry, Alice, that only works in Wonderland.Yes, he did, and it's utterly irrelevant to what's happening in this country today.No, not really. The bailouts are hardly socialist, and welfare, even if you consider it socialist, has been around looooong before the O. It's not his idea, in the least.

Then wouldn't that mean it's not communism?

That's kind of like me putting up a pic of a square and telling you it's a triangle, you're just seeing it in a different shape.

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Democrats are sexy. Who ever heard of a nice piece of elephant?

Whenever someone says "I'm not book smart, but I'm street smart", all I hear is "I'm not real smart, but I'm imaginary smart".

No, silly! It's Mighty Morphin' POWER Communism!

I get to be the pink ranger!

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Democrats are sexy. Who ever heard of a nice piece of elephant?

Whenever someone says "I'm not book smart, but I'm street smart", all I hear is "I'm not real smart, but I'm imaginary smart".

Unlike you I actually posted something after my claim. All you said was basically, "No you're wrong" with nothing else.

Perhaps not in and of itself but combined with other aspects ...

Gee, here's a thought. Maybe I meant that sentence to be combined with those that follow it ... Naw, couldn't have been that.

At least you admit what Karl Marx said.

You've got to be joking me. You're claiming that none of the things I listed are socialist? I don't care whether Obama was the original instigator or not (although you conveniently overlooked Obamacare in your response), his plans are to expand existing socialist programs or add more.

So if crap takes a different shape then that automatically means it's no longer crap? Things take different shapes you know. Ex. Cars come in different shapes and sizes but are still cars. Dogs come in different shapes and sizes but are still dogs. Even people come in different shapes and sizes.

Put another way,

The above phrase shows that regardless of the name or shape the nature of something remains the same. Unfortunately, this principle works for both good and bad things. Just as the nature of a rose would still be just as pleasant if it were named something else or if its shape were different, so the nature of socialism is still just as bad regardless of whether we call it socialism or Obamacare or "spreading the wealth around".

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"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, ... That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men,"
-Declaration of Independence

Two truths that many Americans seem to have forgotten:
1. Men are endowed by God with inalienable rights.
2. Government's purpose is to secure man's God-given rights.

Our abuse of Native Americans was not because we were 'fighting communism', etc. It was simply nationalistic greed. So blaming the world's ills on communism is a bad place to start, if you're looking for ways to make america a better country. If you see facial hair as the main problem in the world, sometimes its worth looking in the mirror and shaving before you go out on a crusade against beards. If you don't shave your own face first, you just wind up looking stupid.

Huh? What you posted in no way supports your claim that communism 'under a different shape' is occurring. Anywhere. In any manner.Which, again, you fail to meaningfully connect or demonstrate in a manner that would support your 'argument'.The ones that followed it were cosmetic fluff, intellectual dreck that doesn't support your contention. I don't know how many times this is going to have to be pointed out to you, but I'm guessing a lot.Irrelevant. That was never the issue.Did I say that? That bailouts were simply not socialist, and the rest of it, as per your central point, in no way represent 'communism under a different shape'.

The free market invented oil ... ...

The rest of your post is crap as well, but that one is enough to discredit the entire post without any further analysis.

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Man has survived hitherto because he was too ignorant to know how to realize his wishes. Now that he can realize them, he must either change them or perish. William Carlos Williams (1883-1963)

Your opinions but again with nothing behind them.

In all the posts I've seen of yours I doubt I have seen very many that are actually worth reading. You have a general tendency to simply state your opinion without backing it up and insult those who disagree with you.

I'll make this simple for you. Why is what you say true?

You just changed the subject. The point is that these programs are socialist. I didn't even mention "communism under a different shape".

Try and keep up. Premise 1. Karl Marx said that first a nation moves into socialism then into communism. Premise 2. Obama's programs and ideas are socialist. Premise 3. Implementing Obama's plans would move this country into further socialism. Conclusion: If we are moving in the direction of socialism then we are on schedule according to Karl Marx in moving towards communism.

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"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, ... That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men,"
-Declaration of Independence

Two truths that many Americans seem to have forgotten:
1. Men are endowed by God with inalienable rights.
2. Government's purpose is to secure man's God-given rights.