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Old 09-27-2009
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How come so few recognize the danger of Communism?

My own opinion is that the majority of Americans have no experiential understanding of what Communism is, how it operates or how much of ones life must be surrendered to support a Communist regime.

Of those Americans who voted for Obama, few are old enough to have lived during the reign of Stalin and therefore do not remember nor do they realize how many millions of his own people he murdered to institute his "change" for Russia. A destruction of Russia that the people are still struggling today to rise above, and that "change" took place in 1917.

Few Americans are old enough to remember how many millions of Cambodians were murdered by Ho Chi Menh when the Left-leaning Americans caused America to lose heart, and were instrumental in causing America to hand Vietnam over to the Communists.

Apparently a large number of Americans forget the millions of teachers, professionals, and business leaders Mao imprisoned and murdered when he "changed" China, and brought the benefits of a common suit of clothes to the people of China. People forget how Mao taught the children to chant praises to the "Chairman", and how he encouraged the teenagers to kill and destroy the leaders of thousands of villages who did not quote from the little red book.

Those individuals whose natural Psychology causes them to fear the Yang energy within their MIND realms [that is, this fear causes them to desire a sense of big government and lots of rules and regulations to give them a sense of security] are naturally vulnerable to the indoctrination of Communism and Marxist precepts of "fairness" and "justice". Those who are short on Spirituality and thus limited in having access to Conscience, Discretion and Knowledge, are easily indoctrinated by those whose ignorance of the Law of Karma encourages them to "think" that they can "control" life better than Life itself.

These are my thoughts, what are yours?

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Re: How come so few recognize the danger of Communism?

I don't recognize the "danger" of Communism because I don't live in paranoid delusional fear.
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Re: How come so few recognize the danger of Communism?

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My own opinion is that the majority of Americans have no experiential understanding of what Communism is, how it operates or how much of ones life must be surrendered to support a Communist regime.

Of those Americans who voted for Obama, few are old enough to have lived during the reign of Stalin and therefore do not remember nor do they realize how many millions of his own people he murdered to institute his "change" for Russia. A destruction of Russia that the people are still struggling today to rise above, and that "change" took place in 1917.

Few Americans are old enough to remember how many millions of Cambodians were murdered by Ho Chi Menh when the Left-leaning Americans caused America to lose heart, and were instrumental in causing America to hand Vietnam over to the Communists.

Apparently a large number of Americans forget the millions of teachers, professionals, and business leaders Mao imprisoned and murdered when he "changed" China, and brought the benefits of a common suit of clothes to the people of China. People forget how Mao taught the children to chant praises to the "Chairman", and how he encouraged the teenagers to kill and destroy the leaders of thousands of villages who did not quote from the little red book.

Those individuals whose natural Psychology causes them to fear the Yang energy within their MIND realms [that is, this fear causes them to desire a sense of big government and lots of rules and regulations to give them a sense of security] are naturally vulnerable to the indoctrination of Communism and Marxist precepts of "fairness" and "justice". Those who are short on Spirituality and thus limited in having access to Conscience, Discretion and Knowledge, are easily indoctrinated by those whose ignorance of the Law of Karma encourages them to "think" that they can "control" life better than Life itself.

These are my thoughts, what are yours?

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Re: How come so few recognize the danger of Communism?

I think a large part of the reason people don't take communism seriously as a threat is because of the shrill protests of those who oppose it. When the loudest voices warning against big government are paranoid bigots, religious fundamentalists, and stingy pricks obsessed with the idea that some "slacker" will get a free ride, it sort of makes it hard to take the warnings seriously.

There are, however, very real dangers inherent in big government. And the correlation between the ubiquitous government of a communist state, and oppressive regimes is no simple coincidence, in my opinion. Broad government control is a heady invitation to fascists. But there are also examples of socialist states that haven't fallen into that trap.

The other side of this debate is at a more fundamental level of individual preference. People today really don't have the same passion for freedom that they once did. People want security, they want to be taken care of.
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Re: How come so few recognize the danger of Communism?

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I think a large part of the reason people don't take communism seriously as a threat is because of the shrill protests of those who oppose it. When the loudest voices warning against big government are paranoid bigots, religious fundamentalists, and stingy pricks obsessed with the idea that some "slacker" will get a free ride, it sort of makes it hard to take the warnings seriously.
When the loudest voices warning against big government are the same ones advocating their own crazy brand of big government it sort off makes it hard to take them seriously.

*shrug*
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Re: How come so few recognize the danger of Communism?

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When the loudest voices warning against big government are the same ones advocating their own crazy brand of big government it sort off makes it hard to take them seriously.

*shrug*
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Re: How come so few recognize the danger of Communism?

Thread reopened...

Oh, and my thoughts? Well, I don't think that you have a decent grounding on the meanings of Marxism, Communism, Leninisma nd Stalinism for a start. i also think that your overemphasising any link between obama and communism...

oh, and i think stalin was bad...
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Re: How come so few recognize the danger of Communism?

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Thread reopened...

Oh, and my thoughts? Well, I don't think that you have a decent grounding on the meanings of Marxism, Communism, Leninisma nd Stalinism for a start. i also think that your overemphasising any link between obama and communism...

oh, and i think stalin was bad...
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Re: How come so few recognize the danger of Communism?

Those who don't understand history are doomed to repeat it.

And it doesn't help that the education system is full of them.
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Re: How come so few recognize the danger of Communism?

With all the fervor of religion communists tell the world that Karl Marx discovered an interpretation of history which, seized upon men of good will, can build a society just to all. To some idealists, struggling in vain to find social justice in the world around them, this preaching breaks like a fresh dawn after night.

The two faces of Communism p 44



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- "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them. "
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- "Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have... The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases."
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Re: How come so few recognize the danger of Communism?

Greetings and Felicitations,

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Those individuals whose natural Psychology causes them to fear the Yang energy within their MIND realms [that is, this fear causes them to desire a sense of big government and lots of rules and regulations to give them a sense of security] are naturally vulnerable to the indoctrination of Communism and Marxist precepts of "fairness" and "justice". Those who are short on Spirituality and thus limited in having access to Conscience, Discretion and Knowledge, are easily indoctrinated by those whose ignorance of the Law of Karma encourages them to "think" that they can "control" life better than Life itself.

These are my thoughts, what are yours?
Useless mind tripe.
What does any of this have to do with communism?

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Re: How come so few recognize the danger of Communism?

When I speak with people in everyday life, I've noticed the ones who are scared of all the -isms are usually those who have never had to draw unemployment for extended periods of time, or those who haven't lost everything they own in a natural disaster and had to seek help from government agencies to get back on their feet.

When was the last time any of you guys read The Grapes Wrath? Maybe you should refresh your memory of what the country was like when the so-called "nanny state" wasn't there to give a helping hand to those who needed it, and to protect people against those who would exploit them in their time of need. I'll take big government to a return of the Hoovervilles anyday, thank you very much.
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Re: How come so few recognize the danger of Communism?

Why should we be afraid of Communism ? Do you know that we are celebrating 20 years of the fall of the wall of Berlin this year ?

There are many other things I am VERY afraid of at the moment.

That oil resources have peaked and will disapear within the next 30 years.
That we have not solved the ethnical/ religious fanatisms around the earth.
That in fact the large majority of this world lives in misery.
That, one year after, we have not managed to fix the financial system.
That government debt is growing everyday and how do we fix it ?
Etc. etc.
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Re: How come so few recognize the danger of Communism?

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- "Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have... The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases."
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The history of the 20th century reinforces that idea as well as anything Jefferson had to go on.
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Re: How come so few recognize the danger of Communism?

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Why should we be afraid of Communism ? Do you know that we are celebrating 20 years of the fall of the wall of Berlin this year ?

There are many other things I am VERY afraid of at the moment.

That oil resources have peaked and will disapear within the next 30 years.
That we have not solved the ethnical/ religious fanatisms around the earth.
That in fact the large majority of this world lives in misery.
That, one year after, we have not managed to fix the financial system.
That government debt is growing everyday and how do we fix it ?
Etc. etc.
We run out of oil, so what? The free market invented oil and will find a substitute without the government's blessing or help, and in fact, with it's interference.

We will never "solve" ethnical/religious fanaticism. The best we can hope for is tolerance both within and without.

The fact that most of the world is ruled by Fascist tyrants and Stalin wannabees will probably always be true, and you can be ensured whenever the US takes down one of these despots the world will shake their collective heads in rage.

I have no idea how to "fix" the financial system. Therefore, since I can't, you can't, and governments being no smarter than you or me, let it fix itself.

Government debt? Gee, that one is pretty easy to solve. Slow down spending. You certainly don't do it by expanding government.
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