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Re: And you thought witch burning was a thing of the past?

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This is actual footage of this occurring in Africa. There are actually people being burned to death in it, so be warned.

What this is representative of is superstition, ignorance and mob mentality, and the same bullshit runs through Christianity, Animism, insert-name-here....

There are no superior religions.

Five people suspected to be witchcrafts were bruterly murded in kisii Nyamataro Village | Africa | World News
Funnily enough, millions have been brutalized/tortured/murdered for purely secular reasons. What's the common denominator? People.

Grats on being ignorant and behaving like the mobs you condemn. First rule is to find your scapegoat and point your finger. What's step #2?
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Re: And you thought witch burning was a thing of the past?

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Funnily enough, millions have been brutalized/tortured/murdered for purely secular reasons. What's the common denominator? People.
And in other News of the Obvious, the sun rises in the east and sets in the west.
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Grats on being ignorant and behaving like the mobs you condemn. First rule is to find your scapegoat and point your finger. What's step #2?
I've never burned anyone to death, and, unlike you, I've never bored them to death, either.

But, of course, with you being insulated in your manufactured outrage and trumped-up sense of faux moral outrage, you've utterly missed the fact that I haven't scapegoated anything in that post other than ignorance and superstition, two things that you apparently are quite attached to.

Step #2 is you, one day, finally posting something, anything, that's written in an adult manner and is worth reading.

I'm not holding my breath.
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Re: And you thought witch burning was a thing of the past?

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And in other News of the Obvious, the sun rises in the east and sets in the west.

I've never burned anyone to death, and, unlike you, I've never bored them to death, either.
nice.

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But, of course, with you being insulated in your manufactured outrage and trumped-up sense of faux moral outrage, you've utterly missed the fact that I haven't scapegoated anything in that post other than ignorance and superstition, two things that you apparently are quite attached to.
First, the bold is just awkwardly written. Second, when you target one group for doing something, while neglecting to point out it's existence, it's scapegoating that group. You were dishonest. I called you out. You then back tracked and acknowledged that I was correct (see your sunrise comment). You're welcome.

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Step #2 is you, one day, finally posting something, anything, that's written in an adult manner and is worth reading.

I'm not holding my breath.
I know you are but what am I?
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Re: And you thought witch burning was a thing of the past?

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nice.

First, the bold is just awkwardly written.
Considering who I was addressing, that's a good thing.
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Second, when you target one group for doing something, while neglecting to point out it's existence, it's scapegoating that group.
Since it escaped your notice, I was scapegoating those who burn people to death based on superstition and ignorance. Sorry that subtlety was lost on you.
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You were dishonest.
No, the only dishonesty here is you claiming that I was.
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I called you out. You then back tracked and acknowledged that I was correct (see your sunrise comment). You're welcome.
Ah, once again you bedazzle yourself with your own, imagined prowess, and fall flat on your face. I backtracked nowhere, since the sunrise comment in no way indicated that I ever differed in the opinion that people were the common denominator. I thought it such an obvious fact that you, yes, even you, wouldn't try to point it out. But you did, and were made the fool.

You're lucky I don't charge for the education you're getting.
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Re: And you thought witch burning was a thing of the past?

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What excuse? Christians are teaching them biblical literalism about witches, that is just plain old fucked up.

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Your excusing plain old African barbarians as victims of Judeo-Christian doctrine.

A literal translation of the verse says nothing about how to identify a witch, leaving entirely up to the imagination of the accuser. And the article clearly identifies the intent of the accusers.

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...For their part, the families are often extremely poor, and sometimes even relieved to have one less mouth to feed....

"When communities come under pressure, they look for scapegoats," he said. "It plays into traditional beliefs that someone is responsible for a negative change ... and children are defenseless."....

It's hard for churches to carve out a congregation with so much competition. So some pastors establish their credentials by accusing children of witchcraft.
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Re: And you thought witch burning was a thing of the past?

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Considering who I was addressing, that's a good thing.

Since it escaped your notice, I was scapegoating those who burn people to death based on superstition and ignorance. Sorry that subtlety was lost on you.

No, the only dishonesty here is you claiming that I was.

Ah, once again you bedazzle yourself with your own, imagined prowess, and fall flat on your face. I backtracked nowhere, since the sunrise comment in no way indicated that I ever differed in the opinion that people were the common denominator. I thought it such an obvious fact that you, yes, even you, wouldn't try to point it out. But you did, and were made the fool.

You're lucky I don't charge for the education you're getting.
Good attempt at a back-peddle, but still an utter fail. If you had said that this is nothing special and similar or worse things happen and have happened for purely secular reasons, you would have been honest. Unfortunately, you only pointed fingers.

Utter fail.
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Re: And you thought witch burning was a thing of the past?

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Good attempt at a back-peddle, but still an utter fail. If you had said that this is nothing special and similar or worse things happen and have happened for purely secular reasons, you would have been hones. Unfortunately, you only pointed fingers.

Utter fail.
The only fail here is the fail that's spackled to your face after your pedestrian rhetoric blew up in your face.

The topic was the religious aspects of such acts occurring, not that they happen in secular situations, and I stated all religions are equal in this regards. You, conversely, not being able to understand that or make a point relevant to that, attempted to inject secularism into it.

Here, have a tissue to wipe that from around your mouth and eyes.
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Re: And you thought witch burning was a thing of the past?

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The only fail here is the fail that's spackled to your face after your pedestrian rhetoric blew up in your face.

The topic was the religious aspects of such acts occurring, not that they happen in secular situations, and I stated all religions are equal in this regards. You, conversely, not being able to understand that or make a point relevant to that, attempted to inject secularism into it.

Here, have a tissue to wipe that from around your mouth and eyes.
An honest reply would have been:

"So..."

or

"And...?"

I'm sorry you hate religion, is there anything I can do to make it better for you?
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Re: And you thought witch burning was a thing of the past?

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An honest reply would have been:

"So..."

or

"And...?"
No, my reply was honest. It just wasn't one that you liked, you poor thing, and now that you've stamped your wittle feet, I hope you feel better.
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Sorry, I don't hate religion in the least. Anything I can do to make you smarter?
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Re: And you thought witch burning was a thing of the past?

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WARNING

This is actual footage of this occurring in Africa. There are actually people being burned to death in it, so be warned.

What this is representative of is superstition, ignorance and mob mentality, and the same bullshit runs through Christianity, Animism, insert-name-here....

There are no superior religions.

Five people suspected to be witchcrafts were bruterly murded in kisii Nyamataro Village | Africa | World News


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Re: And you thought witch burning was a thing of the past?

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Works for me. Try hitting the URL directly, choose 'Africa'. It's on the 2nd page there.
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Re: And you thought witch burning was a thing of the past?

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It just wasn't one that you liked...
I didn't like or dislike it. It was neither informative or surprising. The only problem was it only tells half the story. Fact is, you're just not as smart as you think you are. Your mother was wrong.
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Re: And you thought witch burning was a thing of the past?

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The correlation of an evangelical preacher accusing a child of being a witch and the subsequent burning/murdering of said child does indeed equal causation.

Andrew
It still does not make your correlation that I actually addressed a causation in any general sense.
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As evangelical Christianity has grown in Africa so has witch burning.

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Then correlation must, of course, equate to causation.
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Re: And you thought witch burning was a thing of the past?

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A literal translation of the verse says nothing about how to identify a witch, leaving entirely up to the imagination of the accuser. And the article clearly identifies the intent of the accusers.
If you can't rely on the literal statement then why do so many insist that the Bible must be accepted as literally true word-for-word? I live in the American South and this area is full or people who insist on the absolute veracity of the Bible exactly as it is written.
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Re: And you thought witch burning was a thing of the past?

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As evangelical Christianity has grown in Africa so has witch burning.

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Are you trying to imply that this is something new in Africa? the whole burning of witches thing?

Also, "burning witches" has nothing to do with religion in general. In the past plenty of societies who never subscribed to Christianity burned "witches" or those they deemed to be using "supernatural powers."

Besides the whole "burning" part isn't a punishment. They actually believe that if you are "pure" you wont burn in the fire hence you're innocent of being a witch [yes its stupid].

Furthermore killing those who are "alleged" witches is found in all major religions. You know Muslims behead those who dabble in the occult?

Hell the Vikings are guilty of this as well.
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