Hmmmm, your link doesn't say what religion the people doing the burning are. Only that the victims are "suspected to be witchcrafts".

I saw that very same video on a site about Muslim extremism.

Where's Andrewl's thread about Islamic barbarism?

So, let me see if I understand. Some of you are eager to indict Christianity because of the actions of a few psychopaths? Got it.

Could someone direct me to Andrewl's thread about the good works done around the world in the name of Christianity? I can't seem to find it.

Ahhh, here's the video I was talking about:
NIGERIAN MUSLIMS ADHERING TO ISLAMIC SHARIA LAW, BEAT AND BURNED TO DEATH FIVE MEN AND WOMEN ACCUSED OF WITCHCRAFT.

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[QUOTE=fishjoel;1561870]I didn't like or dislike it. It was neither informative or surprising. The only problem was it only tells half the story. Fact is, you're just not as smart as you think you are.[quote]

No, the fact is you attempted to inject something irrelevant into a subject that was being discussed. When you get called on it, you get pouty and stamp your rhetorical feet. Only half the story? The only story here was religion as it relates to such violence. Go start another thread if you're interested in secularism and violence.Which doesn't change the fact that I'm going to have to start charging for these lessons you're getting.

Perhaps if you could point out where I specifically 'indicted' Christianity? I included all religions in terms of ignorance, superstition and mob-mentality.

Try reading what's actually written. It should clear things up pretty quickly.

alright so some muslims hear some travelling preachers say some of their own are witches and burn them.

did the travellig preachers say burn them or did the muslims come up withthat on their own ?

something tells me the latter.

aint the 3rd world just nutso ?

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I detest all forms of Abrahamic religion equally. The ideas of muslims and jews are just as messed up as the ideas of christians.

Andrew

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Im implying that as evangelical Christianity grows in Africa so does witch burning. The article indicates this is a direct causal relationship, as does all the other evidence i can find.

Are you suggesting this should not be criticized?

Andrew

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But this assumes that the barbaric people who would burn a child wouldn't have found some other pretext for barbarism. Usually religion isn't the primary motivator as much as it is the excuse.

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They are victims of christian doctrine, obviously.

So by the same reckoning you must also believe that the christians of a few centuries ago were likewise blameless when it came to witch burning. After all, it was entirely up to the imagination of the accuser.

Andrew

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I agree that this is a mix of poverty stricken and desperate people who have a preexisting culture that has elements of superstition. That does not negate the causality.

Why would we assume they would have found some other pretext for barbarism?

Andrew

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history ?

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"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."

Ayn Rand

Likewise, your cherry picking of one single statement while ignoring the contents of the article does not prove a lack of causation.

Andrew

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Really? So because my ancestors were likewise barbaric that necessarily makes me barbaric?

Andrew

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-- Derrick Jensen

You are assuming they should be their doing such work in the first place. I disagree. Your type of missionary work has led to massive amounts of suffering.

Andrew

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Because of the bolded, for starters.

It's the same line of thinking as when people say that Muslims are inherently violent. When you look at the socio-economic situation in those countries and the political environment, that explains their behavior much better than blaming their holy book or the strictures of religion.

Same rationale with cults. Cults do weird, destructive and violent things, but if you look at the dynamic, it's less the 'religion' than the fact that you have some charismatic, narcissistic pervert in close and exclusive proximity with lots of gullible, down-and-out people desperate for a sense of belonging.

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Of course, but for me that does not excuse evangelical Christianity from polluting these already dysfunctional people.

I could take a group of dysfunctional teenagers at my local junior high school and get them all fucked up on meth and and other drugs - their pre-existing dysfunctions does not absolve me of any wrong-doing.

Andrew

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