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Re: And you thought witch burning was a thing of the past?

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Perhaps if you could point out where I specifically 'indicted' Christianity? I included all religions in terms of ignorance, superstition and mob-mentality.
Yep, it exists every where. No group holds the monopoly on it. Here's your obvious award.
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You are assuming they should be their doing such work in the first place. I disagree. Your type of missionary work has led to massive amounts of suffering.

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I didn't assume they should or shouldn't. I said that many, who do it, do a poor job at it.

What is my type of missionary work and what massive suffering has it caused?
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Re: And you thought witch burning was a thing of the past?

I see tons of ignorant posts on this thread. Just to clear the water. Could someone point out to where Christians are commanded to burn witches.
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Re: And you thought witch burning was a thing of the past?

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Yep, it exists every where. No group holds the monopoly on it. Here's your obvious award.
Ah, so you can't.

Here's your plate of hot, buttered fail.

You must be getting awfully full by now, you glutton.
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Re: And you thought witch burning was a thing of the past?

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I didn't assume they should or shouldn't. I said that many, who do it, do a poor job at it.
There cannot be anything good about a person who tries to convert someone to their religious beliefs. Its deceitful, selfish, and always causes suffering.

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Re: And you thought witch burning was a thing of the past?

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I see tons of ignorant posts on this thread. Just to clear the water. Could someone point out to where Christians are commanded to burn witches.
In Africa.

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Re: And you thought witch burning was a thing of the past?

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Which Christian doctrine did they fall prey to? I'd like you to please point this out to me.
Evangelism.

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Except hasn't been something that has been going on hundreds of years ago. This has been a constant and uninterrupted thing up to present day.
So you agree they are not blameless then?

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In Africa.

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Care to back that up with any references that actually make sense? Like where Christian doctrine is sources from?

That's about as nonsensical as me saying that it is doctrine/policy of the Democratic party to be enviro-terrorists because some of them are Democrats. Complete fail.
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What particular Christian ideas do you detest? Loving your enemies? Showing mercy on the downtrodden and rejected? Being charitable? Which ones are you talking about?
The idea that we are special. That god created us or evolution specifically that would result in us. That there are martyrs. That Jesus died for our sins. That god punishes or rewards. That the earth belongs to humans. That there are religious miracles. That god answers prayers. That god blesses wars. That we have dominion over creation. That god says what land belongs to what people. Etc, etc, etc, all these ideas are perverse to me.

The ideas you mention above can be found in any culture of any religion. They are human ideas, co-opted by religious people as their own, for their own agenda. The ideas i listed above are specific to Abrahamic religion.

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Care to back that up with any references that actually make sense?
The article i referenced clearly shows that christians are burning witches. What more does one need to know?

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Re: And you thought witch burning was a thing of the past?

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I see tons of ignorant posts on this thread. Just to clear the water. Could someone point out to where Christians are commanded to burn witches.
Post #7 and Post #16 give the biblical reference.
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Re: And you thought witch burning was a thing of the past?

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There cannot be anything good about a person who tries to convert someone to their religious beliefs. Its deceitful, selfish, and always causes suffering.

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I'm sorry that I caused you suffering. That was not the goal.
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Re: And you thought witch burning was a thing of the past?

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I detest all forms of Abrahamic religion equally. The ideas of muslims and jews are just as messed up as the ideas of christians.

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That's good, then you should have no problem providing me with a link to your "Islamic barbarism" thread................

I'll be right here, whenever you're ready.
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There cannot be anything good about a person who tries to convert someone to their religious beliefs. Its deceitful, selfish, and always causes suffering.
Christians by and large don't try to convert anyone, only God can change a person's heart. All we do is spread the good news of the Gospel. The rest is up to you and God. Please explain to us how that is deceitful, or selfish, and, "..........always causes suffering." Puh-leeeeeze.
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Re: And you thought witch burning was a thing of the past?

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Post #7 and Post #16 give the biblical reference.
Yes, a good answer from someone who is uneducated on what Christian beliefs are actually founded on. Someone who actually knew what they were talking about would also know that Christianity is not bound to Old Testament law. You might have noticed that Christians aren't commanded to stone people to death or sacrifice animals and any number of other Old Testament laws.

Let me repeat the question and wait for a legitimate, informed, answer. Could someone point out to where Christians are commanded to burn witches?
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The idea that we are special.
So you hate a fact? Humans are very unique when compared to other life forms. And what's so wrong with being special?

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That there are martyrs.
What's so horrible about martyrs? There are plenty of secular martyrs as well. You see something wrong with standing up for your beliefs, even if that means you die for it? Don't confuse what being a martyr means with the totally perverse definition that Islam gives it.

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That Jesus died for our sins.
Yes, it's so horrible that someone sacrificed himself to, what is believed to be saving mankind? Even if it's all hokey mumbo-jumbo it's a noble motivation. But you are right, that's just horrible!

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That god punishes or rewards.
Some call this reaping what you sow. Of course a lib, like you, don't believe in consequences to your actions.

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That the earth belongs to humans.
It does.

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That there are religious miracles. That god answers prayers.
Who cares about this, if it's fake? What is so horrible about believing in miracles?

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That god blesses wars.
Well, since Christianity doesn't say much about wars, neither condoning or condemning, I don't see how this is a valid point. If anything, Christian teaching would lean slightly to not blessing wars as the idea of rebelling against the Roman gov was generally squashed by Jesus.

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That we have dominion over creation.
Do we not? Seems to me you have problems with hating concrete facts.

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The ideas you mention above can be found in any culture of any religion. They are human ideas, co-opted by religious people as their own, for their own agenda. The ideas i listed above are specific to Abrahamic religion.

Andrew
Maybe those ideas are found in any culture, maybe they are not. I know of many where they are not. How does that invalidate that Jesus' teachings support those ideas and he also acted on those beliefs.

Do you know anything about Christian beliefs? It seems to me that you are just spouting out hateful, unsubstantiated, propaganda.
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