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Indeed, they do dress conservatively.
indeed they do. they also fight tooth and nail to preserve their traditions.

that's conservative, ted.
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This definition of "no change" bears examination. Why would someone be opposed to change?
Because change is hard, it upsets the status quo. It's much easier to keep doing things the same way we always have.
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So by this standard we must conclude belief or support for capitalism is not a necessary part of being conservative.

This definition of "no change" bears examination. Why would someone be opposed to change?
In the United States it does because we embrace capitalism and have since the conception of this nation.

This STILL is a capitalist nation despite the hijacking by liberal socialists.

Say liberals succeed in creating a socialist nation THEN they would become the conservatives by definition.
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Because they're racist. Wait no, that's not right.

People are opposed to change in a variety of areas for a variety of different reasons. I am opposed to change of decency standards on television. I'm not talking hardcore FCC Nazi where a Super Bowl mishap or and actor using the word bitch in a cop show gets me up in arms, but advertising sex toys is over the line.

Take people with various beliefs where they feel the way that it is is better than any other way it could be and it's pretty simple.
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What are the necessary attributes and/or beliefs that make one a “conservative?”

Note: This is not limited to conservatives of any particular country.

Discuss the nature of conservativism.
Hypocrisy seems to be the only constant.
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indeed they do. they also fight tooth and nail to preserve their traditions.

that's conservative, ted.
American women don't wear burkas, therefore there are no American conservative women?
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Hypocrisy seems to be the only constant.
Such as supporting abortions while wanting pets to have human rights?
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American women don't wear burkas, therefore there are no American conservative women?
*bangs head against wall*

con⋅serv⋅a⋅tive –adjective

1. disposed to preserve existing conditions, institutions, etc., or to restore traditional ones, and to limit change.
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Hypocrisy seems to be the only constant.


There is something hypocritical about EVERY liberal issue.

They are all hypocritical..

Your the fucking party that thinks it perfectly fine to fight "oppression" by "oppressing" people.

Everything liberals stand for is hypocritical because nothing they stand for has any foundation. Everything liberals stand for is based on OTHERS actions and policy.

Liberalism is a counter to conservativism.
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holy generalization, batman

edit: although to be fair, that gross over-generalization was in response to another gross over-generalization.
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Re: Conservative

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Such as supporting abortions while wanting pets to have human rights?
Conservatives around the world have varying beliefs etc, but the only constant is the necessity to be hypocrites to justify their behavior.

In the middle east it's ok for men to have sex before marriage, but women can be put to death for it.

In America conservatives get their panties in a bunch about small government but then want to pass legislation to regulate what happens in the bedroom.

Like I said, the only constant tenet that conservatives truly believe in is hypocrisy.
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Because change is hard, it upsets the status quo. It's much easier to keep doing things the same way we always have.
So are you saying that someone doesn't want change because they don't want to put in the effort?

Why would someone not want to upset the status quo?
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Liberalism is a counter to conservativism.
Ignoring the fact that I'm not a member of any affiliated party, I'll address your rant if only to enlighten you...

Ending slavery, making cars safer, ensuring that food & medicine were properly labelled, fighting for our right to become an independant nation, and ending racially motivated segregation: conservatives in America opposed all these things.

Yes liberalism is indeed counter to repressive policies advocated by conservatives in this country.
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holy generalization, batman

edit: although to be fair, that gross over-generalization was in response to another gross over-generalization.
Do you know what generalization means?

If there is a group of 100 people and 51 of them are black it would be appropriate for someone to call the ENTIRE group black...

Its scientific law for fucks sakes..

I love how the left frowns on generalization as if its premise is some how evil.
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Ignoring the fact that I'm not a member of any affiliated party, I'll address your rant if only to enlighten you...

Ending slavery, making cars safer, ensuring that food & medicine were properly labelled, fighting for our right to become an independant nation, and ending racially motivated segregation: conservatives in America opposed all these things.

Yes liberalism is indeed counter to repressive policies advocated by conservatives in this country.


Ending slavery???

Democrats/Liberals ARE NOT responsible for that, that was actually those EVIL republicans.

Geez...
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