At least the Dems are consistent too. They proclaim to want to expand the powers of the government and they do. Republicans proclaims they want to shrink the size of government but never do what they say they're going to do: ever. This is why I hold Republicans in such contempt.

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"[T]he illiteracy level of our children are appalling."—Washington, D.C., Jan. 23, 2004

Not sure how exactly that supports generalization being a scientific law.

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that is correct...if you're generalizing. generalizing is, in general, stupid.

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You're 70% water, ergo you are water.

If you were a chick, I'd drink you. But, since you're a dude, I'm going to use to wash dishes.

(I'm not really sure how the overtones translate and whether I should want to drink anyone. But I am pretty sure that I don't want to drink a dude.)

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Yawn. Were I a liberal, that might be relevant. In fact, if you even knew what the word means, or had a definition for it that didn't change with every post you make, that might be relevant.They do? Where?

Trying to compare U.S. conservatives with other nations conservatives is B.S.

U.S. Conservatives are not against change, they support organized, measured, calculated change. The U.S. constitution is a document by which the mechanisms of change are authorized and enumerated.

It's as if Bill Nye started writing for Penthouse.

I wish I would have known all this long ago. I would only have needed to score 51% on any given science test to get a 100%.

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i can agree with this, though i'm sure you can agree that U.S. conservatives are much more likely to value tradition than U.S. liberals.

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Actually, it is not "B.S." because if both groups are conservative, then there is a commonality at some level.

The way I see it, is liberalism and conservatism both want change. Conservatives want change for the issues they hold ideal, there's nothing measured and calculated about it. Its all gut-reactionary.

Conservatives want to change our school systems to mandate prayer-time, want to change our court rulings to overthrow Roe v Wade, want to change our litigation laws to prevent people from sueing corporations that injure them. The strange thing is, all of these things suggest a stronger more powerful government dictating to us how we live our lives. (hypocritical?)

Liberals want to change our environmental laws to make them stronger, want to have more government run social programs, etc.

That point goes to AjaxPress. The conservatives in the question of abolition of slavery would have been those opposed to abolition of slavery - slavery was the status quo. The plantation owners of the antebellum south would be conservative according to the "no change" definition that you provided us with.

Abolition of slavery by a republican president doesn't make it a conservative position, but a republican position at the time which is more in line with classic liberalism.

Modern day republicans love to cling to the concept that Lincoln was a republican, in complete disregard for all of the policies and politics of the time. The northeastern states have always voted liberal. In 1860 that was the republican party .... Lincoln. The southern states have always voted conservative. In 1860 that was Breckenridge, Douglas, and Bell.

The parties eventually flipped, but the regional states continued to vote the same policywise. Nowdays the northeast votes democratic and the southern states vote republican.

Lincoln was a liberal. Lincoln oversaw the single biggest increase in federal size and power that this country has ever seen.

You are confusing christian fundies with conservatives in some cases.

I didn't know Nixon and Bush 1 were liberals?

So FDR was a Conservative?

A chinese communist and a U.S. republican don't share much in common.