Geobiology. Reading the genetic sequences of organisms, tracing their divergence in the evolutionary tree. It's all perfectly consistent. Teach the controversy? There is none.

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Yup, proof of evolution.

Well, one of the problems of evolution is that it goes against a law of nature. The theory of evolution forces you to suspend all logic and go off of faith or belief. There is no spontaneous generation of life. It just doesn't happen. Evolution would have us belief that life formed out of non-life. I'm sorry, but even the most simple of organisms are complex. They have the ability to reproduce and consume food, etc. A bunch of chemicals are not going to produce a complete living organism.

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the evolution thing seems mainly to be the effects of mutation to me.

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Perhaps if you understood that evolution has nothing to do with the origins of life, you'd understand why no one takes you seriously when you speak about it.

Meh, likely not.

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Correct, it has to do with how life changed to what it is today. Non-life changing/mutating was the first step of that process. It was part of the first life form's development.

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Some but not all. I can assure you that I spent over 20 years in the defense industry and don't recall ever seeing a metric blueprint or CAD drawing.

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The origin of life is a very fascinating puzzle. I have no idea how it happened, but there are two main hypotheses, as far as I can remember. Chemical evolution, and the life molecule. Or something along those lines. I hope to see progress in my lifetime, but this question may never be answered. The theory of evolution accounts for the multitude of species, of the diversity, and it explains how species gradually change and diverge over time.

I haven't slept in over 30 hours, so I'm probably forgetting something basic here.

Point mutation is one of the driving forces of evolution, but there are many more. Mistakes in replication can cause duplicates of genes to arise in the genome, that give rise to new genes that produce different proteins by changes in the composition of amino acids - through point mutation and selection that alter either the entire reading frame, or just one amino acid. Remove or add a base pair through an error, and the reading frame is shifted. This is almost guaranteed to be a disadvantage. Exchange one base for another, and you will only alter the gene product by a single amino acid. Or perhaps shorten or lengthen the product through altering the start and stop codons. That's why we have multigene families with sequence homology. Viruses have the ability to incorporate their DNA into that of the host organism, which in some cases cease to be active, and they add to the organism's genetic repertoire - which again evolve by gradual selection of favourable traits. Microorganism have the ability to radically change their properties through sexual transfer of genetic material (see plasmids), by viral incorporation or uptake of scatter DNA from the environment. Two organisms can also join together if they are compatible by some freak coincidence, which can account for mitochondria and chloroplasts in eukaryotic cells. That it was initially a symbiosis favourable for survival. The mitochondria in our cells carry their own DNA. That is not the sole result of a point mutation, but these also occur to shape the genes where the favourable mutations prevail in the long run.

There are probably some horrible mistakes here. I'll read it again tomorrow.

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The intellectual journey that had began with Copernicus displacing humans from the centre of the Universe and continued with Darwin’s insistence that humans are merely modified monkeys has finally focused in on the very essence of life. And there was nothing special about it. The double helix is an elegant structure, but its message is downright prosaic: life is simply a matter of chemistry.
- James Watson

Point in fact, it hasn't. The goal posts constantly shift as we discover more and more. The theory of evolution has changed and will continue to change as each inception is proven false.

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Don't let them fool you. This is a defense that is a fairly recent concept. Not too long ago evolutionists spent much time on trying to explain the origins of life. It became too apparent that their position was too tenuous. They then used the strategy of divorcing the theory of evolution from the origins. In reality it is part and parcel of the same thing.

Don't forget that the true goal of evolutionists (by a vast majority) is to explain how everything came to be w/o the concept of God. This is why origins of life has become a pariah to the evolution and scientific world.

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Except, of course, that that's not the case at all. Go ahead and name these evolutionists who did this.Except, of course, that that wasn't a strategy because they were never together in the first place.Don't forget to be utterly dishonest when attempting to explain something you clearly know nothing about.

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Haha...my dad was sent to look at some machine that another company was making for his company. The contract was worth quite a bit of money. He rejected their design because it was in the metric system. He got a call at the airport telling him to find some place to hide. He got let into the control tower this was quite a few years ago) to stay safe until his plane arrived. Apparently, some people didn't take well to being rejected.

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I guess you apparently never went to school and read any text books. I don't have to explain it as I'm sure everyone that has a few years under their belts remembers it. If you have a point I'll address it, otherwise, continue to be schooled on a daily basis while everyone on the board laughs at your childish antics.

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I can see how ver simple organisms can change a little but it represents significant change to them. but i dont see this explaining scales vs skin, hot vs cold blooded (for example). blond hair vs brown hair, striped feathers vs solid feathers ? sure

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"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."

Ayn Rand

Like I said, your dishonesty here is palpable, together with your ignorance, and the fact that you feel you 'don't have to explain it' because 'you're sure' that everyone remembers it. Your Appeal to Belief is as transparent as it is fallacious, as is your history.

The point is you resort to logical fallacies, you run away and make excuses when cornered on any of your points and yet you still see fit to keep talking about.

The only ones laughing here at those who actually know science and history, and it's all squarely at you. It would be funny if it weren't so pitiable.

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