Nobel offers many prizes, not just Peace a,d they are in arts and sciences.



[quote]I think that the average Jacque and Helmut are more wrapped up in science than the average Bubba, yes. I also think that the average American man who wins the Nobel Prize in one of the sciences does not go to church, go to music concerts on a regular basis, modify his automobile with various non-standard hubcaps, lights, and speakers, and wear a baseball cap in his daily life. I also think that the average American woman who wins the Nobel Prize in one of the sciences does not go to church, or obsess over celebrity gossip.[/quoet]

is there a point in that apart from your false sense of elitism ?


because we demand proof before we just say 'ok'

link ?

NEA

science here does use those measurements and both are taught in school

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Fair enough.

Indeed, and the culture of some these states is shit, and the people to whom you refer, who place other things over science, are generally ignorant and backwards.

Bush II was wildy populaur in this country, at the beginning, up to a bit past the midpoint of his eight years.

This, combined with a cultural loathing of science, may explain why.

Here is an example. To calculate kinetic energy, you use the equation KE =0.5 * mass * velocity^2

So, using metric, you take 0.5, multiply it by the mass of the object, in kilograms, and then multiply it by the square of the object's velocity, wherein said velocity is in meters per second. and voila, you have your answer in Joules.

In the imperial system, energy is measured in foot-pounds. First, you take 0.5 and multiply it by the mass of the object, which, contrary to what a lot of dumbasses in this country think, is not measured in pounds (pounds being a measure of a FORCE), but rather, in grains or stones. Let's say you choose the former, grains. Next, you take the velocity of the object, in feet per second, and square it. Then you multiply that result by 0.5 times the mass, calculated previously. THEN you take another number that is necessary because you're being a dumbass and using imperial units, and multiply it by the previous result, whereby said number is 0.000004442.

So, does anyone think that the imperial system should be used for science and engineering?

Well I never said that. There are many honorable and respectable parts of those states. They just have a different outlook

That was more due to the "rally around the flag" feelings after a serious terrorist attacks. Polls show that 60% of Americans favor stem cell research

loathing may be the wrong word. Suspicion is a better way to put it.

I'm not denying it's more efficient, just people don't think our measurement system is broken, so why fix it.

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I know that. So what?
Um, to show that your average American Nobel Prize winner in Physics or Chemistry is not from the American cultural mainstream.

You have a century and a half worth of proof. The proof is piled so high that you could drown in it. The proof permeates every nook and cranny of the rational posts of this thread.

Once again, go here: 29+ Evidences for Macroevolution: the Scientific Case for Common Descent

US 'falling behind' in stem cell research | Science | guardian.co.uk

It's a combinaton of dumbassery on both the left and the right.

Yes, it does. So that begs the question, if they use the metric system in science classes in the US, why doesn't the larger US culture accept the metric system, if it really is not the case that the US is anti-science, as you maintain?

The US are not the only country with these problems.
Nearly all countries in the ME and some in northern Africa have similar problems.

Reason is, I believe, that politicians need cattle to vote for them.
Educating children or grown ups costs a lot of money.
Besides, educated folks tend to think, especially in times of elections and might thus create unwanted results.

Then again, it is a lot cheaper to neglect education and import intelligence where needed.
When other countries provide the education of the imported it´s no burden on the own economy.

I´ve met a lot of highly intelligent people in the USA. But I´ve also met quite a few with an intelligence level as present in rural parts of Mauretania.
Though sadly, the latter were nearly all homegrown.

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You don't think that the example that I provided, wherein I demonstrated that the metric units are desinged to align with Physics equations, and that the imperial units are anything but aligned with Physics equations, shows that the imperial system is broken and wholly inappropriate for modern times?

Yes, it is ironic that those in this country who bitch the most loudly about fundamentalist Islam are themselves fundamentalist Christians with many of the same backwards attributes. What hypocritical scum.

In terms of the OP, the US is not anti-science, but I think it does have an expectation of an engineering application. Science for the sake of science is nice, but it doesn't put food on the table or a roof over the head. Our history is full of captains of industry bringing science and technology to market in order to improve the quality of life. If anything, the bar is set that much higher.

This is put on display in the specific political issues mentioned. The evolution of the human form several million years ago means very little at the rate it progresses. We are not going to sprout a third arm anytime soon. It suffices that higher order mammals are built with enough of the same pieces that experiments on them tell us something about our own bodies. And for the most part we don't even use monkeys because such studies would take decades. No one who questions evolution raids ratteries to prevent such experimentation. No one rejects natural mutations that require a new flu shot every year. What it boils down to is the egos who demand acceptance need to get over themselves and do something productive instead preaching.

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not particularly for a couple of reasons

1. most people aren't involved in physics or engineering calculations, but everyday things and our system works just fine.

2. I have yet to see an example of a building falling down because we used the imperial system.

and as I said earlier, i'm not denying the metric system is better I just don't think we'll every switch to it so why make a big deal out of it.

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Well, I'm not that cynical about why the system needs improvement. And, of course, while the Middle Eastern countries may have similar problems, they have not achieved the role of economic and military super power.

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Okay. Do you think that stem cell research has the potential to improve quality of life?

To whom are you referring in the last sentence?

Several hundred million dollars were wasted when a Mars lander crashed due to the appalling mixture of imperial and metric units during the design phase of the spacecraft.

Which, by itself, is no reason at all to change.

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The crash would not have happened if the engineers exclusively used metric units.

I agree with Tanngrisnir. Our system works just fine for me.

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