Thread: Yang America Yin China

Originally Posted by Steerpike

..and yet the Axis powers were defeated in less time than the fight against Al Qaeda and the "war on Terror" has been going on and which currently has no end in sight.

apples and oranges. hell not even that close, more like apples and broccoli. ww2 was a straight fight, with borders, territories, armies and warzones clearly defined. the "war on terror" as it is known is quite different. 1st: the PC rules of engagement members of nato have to conform to is ridiculous in the kind of urban, guerrilla conflict that makes up afghanistan and iraq (again collectively known as the "war on terror"). 2nd: as stated this is not a stand up fight against another nation any longer (and really only was in either country for a VERY short time. before it devolved into guerilla war), its an extermination mission against insurgents and fanatics in which our troops can't go hunting and instead have to sit and wait and play cops. newsflash: soldiers are not cops. theyre soldiers. they have the enemy identified to them and then they shoot them or stab them to death. Thats what theyre trained for and thats what theyre good at. Its not in their job description or training to play rent a cop to a burgeoning government. Allow them to do their job and see what kinda results you get.

Originally Posted by timj219

I wonder how much the CCP pays people to surf political websites and post propaganda? I'm looking for some part time work to supplement my income.

yeah i bet they give you a rubric that makes it pretty easy. sounds like a kush gig

Originally Posted by Tanngrisnir3

I'm not arguing about how things are done in China, or about Walmart.

Such statements that 'China is a meritocracy' and 'there is no oppression in China' are clearly false, outright fantasy and clearly do not stand up to even the most cosmetic of scrutiny.

actually there is a way to tell.

a country at peace with itself, united and patriotic will do things logically. China is like that at the moment.

a country that is not at peace with itself, not meritocratic, not united will do things that sometimes defies logic.....that is USA at the moment.

Originally Posted by timj219

I wonder how much the CCP pays people to surf political websites and post propaganda? I'm looking for some part time work to supplement my income.

CCP has no time for that.

Originally Posted by Melawati

actually there is a way to tell.

a country at peace with itself, united and patriotic will do things logically. China is like that at the moment.

Urumqi.

And a country acting logically?

A. The times that that has happened in history can be counted on two hands.
B. You clearly don't understand what the word 'logic' means.

a country that is not at peace with itself, not meritocratic, not united will do things that sometimes defies logic.....that is USA at the moment.

Again, you don't understand what 'logic' is, so why waste your time trying to pretend that you do?

Originally Posted by reality

apples and oranges. hell not even that close, more like apples and broccoli. ww2 was a straight fight, with borders, territories, armies and warzones clearly defined. the "war on terror" as it is known is quite different. 1st: the PC rules of engagement members of nato have to conform to is ridiculous in the kind of urban, guerrilla conflict that makes up afghanistan and iraq (again collectively known as the "war on terror"). 2nd: as stated this is not a stand up fight against another nation any longer (and really only was in either country for a VERY short time. before it devolved into guerilla war), its an extermination mission against insurgents and fanatics in which our troops can't go hunting and instead have to sit and wait and play cops. newsflash: soldiers are not cops. theyre soldiers. they have the enemy identified to them and then they shoot them or stab them to death. Thats what theyre trained for and thats what theyre good at. Its not in their job description or training to play rent a cop to a burgeoning government. Allow them to do their job and see what kinda results you get.

None of this refutes what I said.

Originally Posted by Melawati

China is yin culture. China will survive whether there are resources in Africa. We just do with less.

Which is why Chinese industry is seeking more resources in places such as Africa. Doesn't seem to contribute to your ying - yang argument.

Originally Posted by timj219

I wonder how much the CCP pays people to surf political websites and post propaganda? I'm looking for some part time work to supplement my income.

why do u challenge me intellectually instead of throwing wild accusations that I cannot disprove you even when you are wrong.......much like Saddam Hussein asked to prove he got no WMD.....going to attack Iran with similar tactics?

Originally Posted by Melawati

CCP has no time for that.

So you are working in a direction that does not contribute to the goals of the CCP and benefit of China?

Originally Posted by Melawati

CCP has no time for that.

CCP has time for little else than putting a pretty face on their actions. I spent years working with people who are in China on a regular basis. The same is true of many americans and europeans. There is no way that the kind of nonsense you're paid to post here will ever be believed in any open society.

Originally Posted by Tanngrisnir3

Urumqi.

And a country acting logically?

A. The times that that has happened in history can be counted on two hands.
B. You clearly don't understand what the word 'logic' means.

Again, you don't understand what 'logic' is, so why waste your time trying to pretend that you do?

any foreign relation expert , any economic expert will be able to tell you that every thing coming out of Beijing nowadays is very logical and done well.....how else you think we can do so well? how come we have friends and you have enemies every where?

Originally Posted by timj219

CCP has time for little else than putting a pretty face on their actions. I spent years working with people who are in China on a regular basis. The same is true of many americans and europeans. There is no way that the kind of nonsense you're paid to post here will ever be believed in any open society.

seems your open society people are not smart then........and totally getting China wrong as well.

never mind all that...I can't change a thing. I am only enjoying myself. China will rise whatever I do or dont do.

Originally Posted by Melawati

any foreign relation expert , any economic expert will be able to tell you that every thing coming out of Beijing nowadays is very logical and done well.....how else you think we can do so well? how come we have friends and you have enemies every where?

That fact that you think you're doing so 'well' based on what 'experts' think and 'things coming out of Beijing' clearly shows your lack of understanding of logic and, hence, dismantles any point you might be trying to make based on that.

Really, you're embarrassing yourself.