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A great piece on the Quran burning in the Orlando Sentinel:
Burn a Koran Day: Burned up over Terry Jones' notariety? Blame the media - OrlandoSentinel.com
The author hits it right on the head:
I ask you: If a sad little man burns some Qurans in the woods, and the media aren't there to film it, is it news?
Of course not.
We created the Rev. Terry Jones from dust. And in two weeks, to dust he shall return. Then we'll move on to the guys who plan to run over the Quran at their monster-truck pull. Whatever it takes to keep your attention.
It is all so truly tragical.
We could help head off such future nonsense if we folded up the circus tent and left Jones alone with his blowtorch and 30 followers.
Maybe if Gen. Petraeus told the media that it isn't Rev. Jones who is endangering troops. That it is our coverage of Rev. Jones. That without us, this book burning would be little more than a grainy video on YouTube.
Put the onus on a responsible party and hope it acts responsibly.
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It appears that some people object to news coverage of this proposed event. It is the job of the free press to report the news and a book burning in the United States is news.
Concern for the troops has been voiced. While this is a potential problem (and this would in no way alter the rights question), it may not be as much so as is being implied.
Because the news media have been giving this coverage and there is a resulting backlash against the proposed action, the backlash itself undercuts the propaganda value of this (proposed) event to Al Qaeda and/or the Taliban.
The criticism of the proposed book burning has come from different levels of government (as well as other religious groups).
Even pastor’s old church condemns Quran-burning | The Upshot Yahoo! News - Yahoo! News
If the criticism is covered along side of coverage of the book burning itself (should it occur) in the Middle East, then the propaganda value, to those fighting American troops, of the book burning is diminished (possibly negated)."It could endanger troops and it could endanger the overall effort," top commander in Afghanistan Gen. David Petraeus told the media. "It is precisely the kind of action the Taliban uses and could cause significant problems.
As "an act of patriotism," the media should not cover the burning, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said. She also said, "It's regrettable that a pastor in Gainesville, Florida, with a church of no more than 50 people can make this outrageous and distressful, disgraceful plan, and get the world's attention":
The terrorist attacks of 9/11, says the Vatican, "cannot be counteracted by an outrageous and grave gesture against a book considered sacred by a religious community."
Attorney General Eric Holder called the plan "idiotic and dangerous."
Presumed presidential candidate Mitt Romney told Politico
"Burning the Quran is wrong on every level. It puts troops in danger, and it violates a founding principle of our republic."
"I do not think well of the idea of burning anybody's Koran, Bible, Book of Mormon or anything else," Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour told reporters. "I don't think there is any excuse for it. I don't think it's a good idea."
"Any type of activity like that that puts our troops in harm's way would be a concern," White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said Tuesday.
"I appeal to people who are planning to burn the Quran to reconsider and drop their plans because they are inconsistent with American values and, as General Petraeus has warned, threatening to America's military," Connecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman said in a statement.
House Minority Leader John Boehner spoke out against the event, comparing it to the planned Islamic center near Ground Zero. "Well, listen, I just think it's not wise to do this in the face of what our country represents. ... Just because you have the right to do something in America, doesn't mean it's the right thing to do."
New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg called it "boneheaded and wrong" but said the protesters are protected by the First Amendment. "He has a right to do it," he said.
Last edited by Steerpike; 09-09-2010 at 04:55 AM.
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We can't have prayer groups before the start of the school day, but we can install ritual foot washing stations in other schools. A cartoon with a likeness of Mohamed is inciteful, but a crucifix in a jar of piss is art. Burning qurans on the anniversary of 9/11 is a crazy and reckless and should be stopped, but our own military burns American soldiers' bibles in Afghanistan.
Me? I'm tired of a nation that continually infringes upon the rights of the majority to placate the minority.
I'm sick and tired of my brothers and sisters dying to preserve America's right to drive like assholes.
The U.S. Military & The Afghan Language Bible Burning Controversy (Wizbang Blue)
Oh for the day when we finally evolve past this childish need for religion.
The real racism and lack of judgment is in everyone just assuming that Muslims will react violently to it. The President himself has even said it's going to happen.
And the funniest part is, many of the same people who believe this Koran burning will result in general violence insist that Muslims are peaceful and only the extremists are a problem.
Well, then we won't see much of an issue aside from the usual suspects when these Korans get burned. But really, it would be nice if someone would define who the usual suspects are and how many of them there are. Enough dancing around the issue of Islam itself. Either Muslims are as peaceful as everyone else, or they are not. They cannot be both depending on the political circumstances. They want to build a mosque, well, they are peaceful. Someone else wants to publish depictions of Mohammed in a Danish newspaper, and then we hear how that shouldn't be done(as opposed to the government funding an art project featuring Jesus in urine), because that will cause violence. Among Muslims. Who are peaceful.
Someone needs to start levelling with the American people about this issue, because right now everyone's drawing their own conclusions, and it's not working out favorably for Muslims.
You do realize that students can have a prayer group before school if they want to. The school just can't do it.
Maybe this will help you out a little more.In the United States, public schools are prohibited from sponsoring religious observances such as daily prayer. Prayer itself is not forbidden while at school. Regarding the Free Exercise Clause of the First Amendment, the courts have consistently ruled that students' expressions of religious views through prayer or otherwise cannot be abridged unless they can be shown to cause substantial disruption in the school.
School prayer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Prayer In School
O, the poor Christians. Always under the attack but always willing to suppress the rights of others.
Here are some nice people trying to get Fahrenheit 451 banned from school. Imagine that. Trying to get a book about banning/burning books banned.
YouTube - Religious nuts in Texas seek to ban book about book banning!
Or how about those good old fashioned Harry Potter book burnings.
Another Harry Potter book burning - HPANA
It is time to get off the persecution band wagon.
I'm also seeing on this thread people fearing that this will be usd to recruit everyday Muslims to Al Qaeda's ranks.
Um, no. A single church in Florida burning Korans is not going to convince a single Muslim not already prone to view Al Qaeda favorably that the WEst is waging a war against Islam.
REally, just how stupid and barbaric do you guys think Muslims are?
Al Qaeda and the Taliban want to thank their Christian brothers for helping them recruit suicide bombers to slay the infidels.
Every burnt Koran is a new suicide bomber for the cause.
CAse in point. Is it really that easy to recruit everyday Muslims to the cause of jihad?
Because we just decided that the burning of religious texts was offensive, ill advised, and moronic, but still protected speech. So if some citizens of Afghanistan want to, thats their purgative, but as a force in league with the Afghan government, thats not our role.
Clearly those attempting to proselytize to the Afghans in the name of Christ are truly in a hurry to meet their God, but it is not the role of the US military, who has sworn to defend and uphold the Constitution to interfere, and its bad policy to support the Afghan government in such endevours.
There is a reason radical Islam is trying to blackmail us into building a mosque near Ground Zero, and a radical backlash by the Koran burning preacher, we are not willing defend and uphold our own values and culture.
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