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President
I really don't want to burn my Koran. I haven't finished reading it yet~!
Religious leaders speak out against International Burn a Quran Day
Religious leaders in Gainesville, Florida, have planned a Gathering for Peace, Understanding and Hope, in response to a local church's International Burn a Quran Day.
"We feel compelled to raise our voices to proclaim that the action the Dove World Outreach Center is proposing is absolutely wrong and counter to the life and teaching of the Jesus whom we love, follow and call savior and Lord," Senior Minister Dan Johnson of Trinity United Methodist Church said, in a note posted on his church's website Wednesday.
As part of the Gainesville Interfaith Forum - made up of Christians, Muslims, Jews and Hindus - Trinity Church will host the event September 10, the notice said, the night before the planned Quran burning.
"Our goal is to foster understanding, mutual respect and peace, while recognizing and appreciating our own particular faith understandings," Johnson said.
The nondenominational Outreach Center said it will host the Quran-burning event on the ninth anniversary of the September 11, 2001 attacks. The group said it will remember 9/11 victims and take a stand against Islam. With promotions on its website and Facebook page, it invites Christians to burn the Muslim holy book at the church from 6 p.m. to 9 p.m.
Wednesday, the city of Gainesville denied a burn permit to the center, said Bob Woods, City of Gainesville spokesman.
"It was a question of public safety," said Woods. "The Gainesville Fire Department has notified the center through a letter," he said.
But that isn't stopping the church. The Gainesville Sun reported that, in an e-mail newsletter sent out Wednesday, the church announced: "City of Gainesville denies burn permit - BUT WE WILL STILL BURN KORANS."
Gene Prince, the interim chief of Gainesville Fire Rescue, told the Sun on Wednesday that under the city's fire prevention ordinance, an open burning of books is not allowed. He said if the church goes ahead with its plan, it will be fined.
And the church's intentions aren't the issue. "It wouldn't matter what the book is they're burning," Deputy Chief Tim Hayes told the Sun.
"We believe that Islam is of the devil, that it's causing billions of people to go to hell, it is a deceptive religion, it is a violent religion and that is proven many, many times," Dove World Outreach Center Pastor Terry Jones told CNN's Rick Sanchez last month.
Jones wrote a book titled "Islam is of the Devil," and the church sells coffee mugs and shirts featuring the phrase.
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Legend of USPO!
IMHO, this Koran burning is needlessly offensive and frankly stupid.
That said, it is Constitutionally protected expression, and the City will probably lose if their fine is challenged.
Just like flag burning, this will offend some people but there is no lawful basis to stop it.
Matt
“Well, congratulations, President Barack Obama, Conspiracy theorists who generally can survive in anaerobic environments have just had an algae bloom dropped on their fucking heads, thus removing the last arrow in your pro-governance quiver: skepticism about your opponents.” - Jon Stewart
Joint Chiefs of Staff Member
Originally Posted by MattInFla
The City looks to be approaching this merely as a question of fire safety and not a question of politics.
Gene Prince, the interim chief of Gainesville Fire Rescue, told the Sun on Wednesday that under the city's fire prevention ordinance, an open burning of books is not allowed. He said if the church goes ahead with its plan, it will be fined.
And the church's intentions aren't the issue. "It wouldn't matter what the book is they're burning," Deputy Chief Tim Hayes told the Sun.
"Justice is the first virtue of social institutions, as truth is of systems of thought." - John Rawls
"Those who will not reason, are bigots, those who cannot, are fools, and those who dare not, are slaves. " - Lord Byron
"Knowledge makes men gentle, and reason inclines toward humanity; only prejudices cause these to be renounced." - Montesquieu
Legend of USPO!
They allow open burning of other materials, just not books.
Matt
“Well, congratulations, President Barack Obama, Conspiracy theorists who generally can survive in anaerobic environments have just had an algae bloom dropped on their fucking heads, thus removing the last arrow in your pro-governance quiver: skepticism about your opponents.” - Jon Stewart
Joint Chiefs of Staff Member
Might there be another way to burn them that is in compliance with fire safety laws?
"Justice is the first virtue of social institutions, as truth is of systems of thought." - John Rawls
"Those who will not reason, are bigots, those who cannot, are fools, and those who dare not, are slaves. " - Lord Byron
"Knowledge makes men gentle, and reason inclines toward humanity; only prejudices cause these to be renounced." - Montesquieu
President
There are fire safety codes in many municipalities against open burning of materials because of the risk that the floating embers will cause other fires. For instance in my city, Toledo, the fire code forbids it and you can get a hefty fine. But usually it's only enforced when it is very dry out and the fire dept. will usually let first-time offenders off with a warning rather than slapping them with a fine unless they want to be dicks about it.
Probably, if they put a grate over the fire to prevent the embers from flying away. Then it's no different than a BBQ.
Last edited by hairballxavier; 08-22-2010 at 01:38 PM.
County Executive
Pretty extreme. Burning the Quran is not only a waste of time, but will accomplish nothing but a backlash of more hatred.
Secretary of Defense
Sure it will, but just about everything we do or say causes radical Muslims to hate us. We talk about burning qurans and they behead reporters. I'm thinking that dropping a half million flaming qurans on Mecca might let them know that they've pissed us off. Frankly I don't give 2 shits whether or not radical Islam likes us, but they should fear us.
I'm sick and tired of my brothers and sisters dying to preserve America's right to drive like assholes.
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Governor
Stupid idea. I like the BBQ idea better. If you dislike Islam, just drink a beer and eat some slow-cooked pork during Ramadan.
Secretary of State
this is just retarded. I can't think of better propaganda for those fundie bastards than this. What sheer idiocy
Town Council Member
it is stupid and offensive ,, i wish people would become just as offensive in the burning of new testaments by the depraved zionists in israel.
President
Who do you think cares if testaments are burned? I, personally, think a lot of Christains are very hurt and offended at many things that go down about them in these times. But it is Christians who are seen as the real terrorists. Christians are credited for all of the terrorism worldwide. After all, Christains waged the crusades, and there was Timothy McVeigh you know.....
Town Council Member
Why buy into it? ...The key is to always find the source of all that threatens the christian faith and you will invariably find a jewish maggot hiding under the garbage pail!
County Executive
I didn't realize that McVeigh professed himself as a Christian, he supposedly grew up attending Catholic services as a child. According to what I've read about his interviews, he was a declared agnostic and claimed science was his religion.
President
dumb. period.
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