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    Quote Originally Posted by noahath View Post
    I can only speak for what I see on the media here, and the representation of this group in the Australian media seems to be more around highlighting the rise of Christian-religious fundamentalist in the US. The story was around the issue of testing the right to free speech, but there certainly was an undertone to the story.
    Of course the media would add that "undertone."

    Like homosexuals, the media is at war with Christianity.

    This is roundy denied by all of course, but this is what is going on.

    The people in the media know that if they can put Christians in this kind of "picture frame," it won't help Chritianities image overall.

    That this is a desperate tactic is clear. Why the desparation ?

    Christianity is being fed, its being "stoked" by what is going on in the world. The more it is attacked and persecuted by "laws," by criminals (and criminals who make "laws"), by atheist writers filled with hate writing books, by people who have allowed themselves to be ruled by their organic urges, the more it will grow.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tim View Post
    Incredible.

    These fanatical cult members are being advertised as examples of American Christianity.

    That is deliberately false reporting and goes beyond xenophobia into sheer fantasy. I'm not surprised there is so much anti-Americanism in Australia.
    As I was saying above, these dummies at that baptist "church" are a perfect opportunity for the media to make Christianity look bad. What would be truly surprising is if they (the media) weren't doing what they're doing.

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    if homosexuals and christianity are at war, then it's the christians who are the aggressors. that much should be obvious even to you, trips.
    "My country is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine

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    Quote Originally Posted by bg85 View Post
    if homosexuals and christianity are at war, then it's the christians who are the aggressors. that much should be obvious even to you, trips.
    Yeah sure

    That would be why some denominations are even allowing homo and lesbian preachers and performing "gay marriages"

    Those evil "Christian aggressors," those homophobes :rolleyes:

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    Yeah, 'cause lord knows there's tons of incidents of gays waiting outside churches to kick the shit out of Christians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Trips View Post
    Yeah sure

    That would be why some denominations are even allowing homo and lesbian preachers and performing "gay marriages"

    Those evil "Christian aggressors," those homophobes :rolleyes:
    lol TRIPS! what on earth have the gays done to attack christianity in this supposed war? of course we can disagree on the merits of homosexuality and its effects on society in general, but seriously, are there large, organized, well-funded groups of gay people going around condemning christianity in all its forms?
    "My country is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine

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    Quote Originally Posted by bg85 View Post
    lol TRIPS! what on earth have the gays done to attack christianity in this supposed war? of course we can disagree on the merits of homosexuality and its effects on society in general, but seriously, are there large, organized, well-funded groups of gay people going around condemning christianity in all its forms?
    That you're unaware of, or wish to deny what is going on around you is clear.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Trips View Post
    That you're unaware of, or wish to deny what is going on around you is clear.


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    this doesn't answer the question in my post. i'm not sure what you're trying to say here.
    "My country is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine

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    Quote Originally Posted by bg85 View Post
    this doesn't answer the question in my post. i'm not sure what you're trying to say here.
    It's the CT argument - "if you are too blind to see it, you won't be able to understand it, so I can't tell you about it."

    It's perfect, because it can't be attacked (because it's never identified) so it never has to be defended.

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    Just as a point of interest to anyone, I'm linking the SCOTUS oral argument transcript from Snyder v Phelps. Margie Phelps, the daughter of Fred Phelps and a licenced KS lawyer, argued for WBC.

    http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/fil...l-argument.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by pramjockey View Post
    It's the CT argument - "if you are too blind to see it, you won't be able to understand it, so I can't tell you about it."

    It's perfect, because it can't be attacked (because it's never identified) so it never has to be defended.
    Blind, dumb or willfully ignorant

    I long ago abandoned showing proof(s) about this here, as they're routinely ignored or denied.

    Especially by those arguing for gay issues. Facts just aren't "gay" friendly.

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    Re: Westboro Baptist Church at it again!

    Quote Originally Posted by pramjockey View Post
    Yeah, 'cause lord knows there's tons of incidents of gays waiting outside churches to kick the shit out of Christians.
    Maybe us poofs should start protesting outside Christian funerals saying that there is no God, and the Jews are probably right anyway. Let's face it, out of Ismal, Judaism, Buddhism, Christianity, etc, IF there is a god, then all bar one has to be wrong.

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    Re: Westboro Baptist Church at it again!

    Quote Originally Posted by O'Sullivan Bere View Post
    Just as a point of interest to anyone, I'm linking the SCOTUS oral argument transcript from Snyder v Phelps. Margie Phelps, the daughter of Fred Phelps and a licenced KS lawyer, argued for WBC.

    http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/fil...l-argument.pdf
    Fascinating read. As I'm browsing through I find Breyer's question to Summers

    Do you think they can put anything on television even if it attacks, say, the most private things of a private individual?
    to be right at the heart of where freedom of speech in the age of the internet is going to be addressed.

    I also find it amusing that Sotomayor refers to the "Iran war".

    If I am talking to you as a Marine, if you were a Marine, and I was talking about the Iran war and saying that you are perpetuating the horrors that America's doing and said other things that were offensive, would you have a cause of action because you are being called a perpetrator of the American experience?
    I don't recall any recent war in Iran involving US marines but, then again, I'm not a "wise latina".

    The exchange between Alito and Phelps is pretty entertaining and Phelps may be a vile, nasty hateful person but she's not an idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Trips View Post
    Blind, dumb or willfully ignorant

    I long ago abandoned showing proof(s) about this here, as they're routinely ignored or denied.

    Especially by those arguing for gay issues. Facts just aren't "gay" friendly.

    Actually, you gave up because you were systematically disproven. Better to just flout around like a fairy, sprinkling itchy dust (no pixie dust left) than to actually get nailed down to anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lutherf View Post
    Fascinating read. As I'm browsing through I find Breyer's question to Summers



    to be right at the heart of where freedom of speech in the age of the internet is going to be addressed.

    I also find it amusing that Sotomayor refers to the "Iran war".



    I don't recall any recent war in Iran involving US marines but, then again, I'm not a "wise latina".

    The exchange between Alito and Phelps is pretty entertaining and Phelps may be a vile, nasty hateful person but she's not an idiot.
    So, you've never misspoken?

    Ever?

    Must be great to be perfect.


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    He's never been promoted as a wise latina either
    I'm sick and tired of my brothers and sisters dying to preserve America's right to drive like assholes.

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