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    Internet Welfare

    You read that correctly.

    Demanded by this administration were the following terms:
    The deal requires Comcast to provide "approximately" 2.5 million low income households with high speed Internet for less than $10 a month. To this population the ISP must also sell PCs, netbooks, or similar computer equipment at prices below $150, and offer a host of "digital literacy educational opportunities."

    In addition, Comcast must grow its broadband networks to about 400,000 new homes, get fast Internet service to six additional rural areas, and offer free video and ISP offerings to 600 new "anchor institutions" in low income regions ("anchor" here means schools, libraries, and such).
    http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/n...erger-deal.ars

    You now have the 'right' to the internet... for less than $10 a month. And a under market priced laptop.

    How nice.

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    and now the internet!
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    Re: Internet Welfare

    I guess I am not all that surprised that in exchange for what Comcast wants they have to "give" these things the way Obama wants.
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    Re: Internet Welfare

    Quote Originally Posted by tsquare View Post
    You read that correctly.

    Demanded by this administration were the following terms:


    You now have the 'right' to the internet... for less than $10 a month. And a under market priced laptop.

    How nice.

    Life!
    Liberty!
    and now the internet!
    I am so looking forward to going broke so that I can start getting handed all the stuff that I've been working so hard for all these years.

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    Re: Internet Welfare

    Quote Originally Posted by tsquare View Post
    That, of course, someone else (Comcast customers) will have to pay for.
    In one way or another, yes. There must me more "deals" over this one, can't wait for more to come out.
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    Re: Internet Welfare

    Piss and moan, piss and moan. I see that no source of this is posted, curious as to wonder why not.

    Besides, in comse 3rd war countries they are going to sell under $100 internet computers. So they'll be making more than $50 profit per each unit sold here. Pretty good profit margin.

    Comcast-NBC Deal Coming To A TV Near You : NPR

    from this link
    The deal creates a media giant that will control much of what viewers watch and the way they access it. Los Angeles Times reporter Joe Flint joins Liane Hansen to explain how the massive deal will and will not affect consumers.

    The new company will connect millions of homes to the Internet and control one of Hollywood's biggest movie studios. In other words, if you watch, download, subscribe or buy a ticket, you may be doing business with the new merged company.
    So they aren't 'giving' away anything, they are getting a hell of a lot more than just providing internet service.
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    Re: Internet Welfare

    Well here is one source that basically says what the OP is suggesting.

    Robert Steele: Comcast-NBCU Deal Benefits African Americans

    Broadband Development and Adoption

    As access to broadband has become increasingly essential to educational and employment opportunities, African Americans and members of other underserved communities have lagged behind in broadband deployment and adoption. Leaving these communities out of the broadband revolution is unacceptable.

    Comcast's new commitments strike at the heart of this important concern. In addition to expanding its existing networks and high-speed service for schools, libraries, and community institutions in underserved areas, the company will launch the Comcast Broadband Opportunity Program (CBOP), which provides families with children eligible for the National School Lunch Program with broadband access for only $9.95 per month, as well as access to affordable computer equipment. Broadband can be a critical bridge to economic mobility and better education, a fact that Comcast is now pledged to more widely publicize in our communities.
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    Re: Internet Welfare

    Quote Originally Posted by ConLib View Post
    Piss and moan, piss and moan. I see that no source of this is posted, curious as to wonder why not.
    Cause I forgot...

    Comcast: $10/month Internet—and cheap netbooks—for the poor

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    Re: Internet Welfare

    Quote Originally Posted by ConLib View Post
    So they aren't 'giving' away anything, they are getting a hell of a lot more than just providing internet service.
    Of course. That's the heart and soul of corporatism. Basically government has become the means for the major corporate interests divvying up the spoils.
    "The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire. The former are idealists acting from highest motives for the greatest good of the greatest number. The latter are surly curmudgeons, suspicious and lacking in altruism. But they are more comfortable neighbors than the other sort." -- Robert E. Heinlein

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    Re: Internet Welfare

    Quote Originally Posted by dblack View Post
    Of course. That's the heart and soul of corporatism. Basically government has become the means for the major corporate interests divvying up the spoils.
    I disagree.

    This is one of Barry's "shovel ready" projects to stimulate the economy through private enterprise.

    Imagine the demand for hand lotion and tissue paper this will generate...
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    Re: Internet Welfare

    You could also choose to look at it as a way of cutting spending.

    In the future (and now, for that matter) more and more city, state and government official business will be conducted online, as in filling out forms online, applying for whatever, and so on.

    Giving 99% of the population access to the Internet through some sort of aid might be cheaper than keeping alot of offices open, where people have to go physically to apply for whatever.

    So it might just cut down on bureacracy...
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    Re: Internet Welfare

    Quote Originally Posted by Maddox View Post
    You could also choose to look at it as a way of cutting spending.
    It looks to me like yet another quid pro quo between the Obama administration and corporate America - colluding to create yet another "too big to fail" corporation and further consolidating power and dependency in the hands of the state and its corporate "partners".

    I think many of you consider corporatism some kind of reasonable compromise, but it's not. It's a type of fascism and stands in direct opposition to both free-market and socialist values.
    "The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire. The former are idealists acting from highest motives for the greatest good of the greatest number. The latter are surly curmudgeons, suspicious and lacking in altruism. But they are more comfortable neighbors than the other sort." -- Robert E. Heinlein

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    Re: Internet Welfare

    Quote Originally Posted by dblack View Post
    It looks to me like yet another quid pro quo between the Obama administration and corporate America - colluding to create yet another "too big to fail" corporation and further consolidating power and dependency in the hands of the state and its corporate "partners".

    I think many of you consider corporatism some kind of reasonable compromise, but it's not. It's a type of fascism and stands in direct opposition to both free-market and socialist values.
    I don´t know about that, really. Mostly because I´m not big on ideology and don´t adhere to any one principle.

    I´m just saying that the more people you can get to use digitalized government services, the more you are able to cut spending.
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    Re: Internet Welfare

    So should I hold off on that satellite internet box for $50 a month?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commodore View Post
    So should I hold off on that satellite internet box for $50 a month?
    Dude, there´s tons of free porn out there...
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