Thread: Mental Health Group Looks to Remove Stigma From Pedophilia

Originally Posted by bubble gun

They can understand Tolstoy and trigonometry, but cannot understand fucking?

According to the drafters of the law, yes.

I dont claim to understand it.

Originally Posted by noahath

Perhaps you can be clear in exactly what it is you are trying to say? Are you trying to equate homosexuality with pedophilia?

I am merely quoting what it is that these so called mental health professionals are saying. In this case, the same mental health professionals that voted to declare homosexuality no longer a mental disorder decades ago, are making the same arguments they made regarding homosexuality then, now with pedophilia. Essentially, like with homosexuality, its not a mental disorder, its normal and is a sexual orientation, just like heterosexuality. And any mental disorder associated with the alternative sexual orientation, is not due to the alternative orientation, but instead because of societies reaction to it.

Originally Posted by noahath

US society was not ok with African-Americans and integration up 'till only a few decades ago. Social norms change in some areas, whilst some do not.

Again, a wholly artificial argument. In other words, who decided that social norms cannot change in some areas and can in others? You?

Originally Posted by Speakeasy

Just a hypothetical question....would people take issue with a pedophile that never once touches a child inappropriately and never once contributes harm to a child in any way?

That's a good question but I would take issue with it.

Originally Posted by Wagner

That's a good question but I would take issue with it.

Why? The individual isn't harming anyone and there are plenty of other people around you with equally distasteful mindsets.

Originally Posted by C-B-M

Again, a wholly artificial argument. In other words, who decided that social norms cannot change in some areas and can in others? You?

'Society' determines when social norms change, and when they don't. Society determined that it was ok for blacks and whites to integrate; society has determined that homosexuality is not a crime; society has determined that pedophilia is a crime.

I'm not sure whether you're just being deliberately obtuse, or whether you really don't understand the issue that you're engaging in.

Originally Posted by Hoplite

Why? The individual isn't harming anyone and there are plenty of other people around you with equally distasteful mindsets.

True. So why do you get all worked up about people who say it's OK for homosexuals to be gay as long as they don't have sex with men?

Originally Posted by noahath

'Society' determines when social norms change, and when they don't. Society determined that it was ok for blacks and whites to integrate; society has determined that homosexuality is not a crime; society has determined that pedophilia is a crime.

I'm not sure whether you're just being deliberately obtuse, or whether you really don't understand the issue that you're engaging in.

Oh, so in societies that are OK with pedophilia or who believe in slavery, that's OK? Just checking.

Originally Posted by C-B-M

Oh, so in societies that are OK with pedophilia or who believe in slavery, that's OK? Just checking.

You're very good at putting words in people's mouths aren't you. You stated earlier:

Originally Posted by C-B-M

Again, a wholly artificial argument. In other words, who decided that social norms cannot change in some areas and can in others? You?

I simply answered your question with a factual response. You didn't like the response so you revert to an attempt to bait by insinuating that I support paedophillia and slavery. I've actually realised something here - the answer to the question "who decides that social norms cannot change in some areas but change in others" is ... CBM. Clearly you believe that anyone who doesn't agree explcitly 100% with you is wrong. They don't have a different opinion, they're just wrong. That's an excellent foundation for starting a discussion about political and social issues.:rolleyes: