Re: And the atheist movement begins...
Yes, I am bothered greatly by the State dictating what a free man may ingest, and what he cannot ingest, without being punished by prison,etc. I agree with christ, in that it is not what goes into a man, and out his other end, but what comes from his heart. Of course he was referring to the jewish diet, perhaps, or even drinking wine, which does tend to give you a buzz if you drink more than just a small portion at one setting. Yet not one of the ten commandments says anything about drinking or ingesting drugs. Those that forbid such, wrote it themselves, a creation of religous law by man. For whatever reason.
Originally Posted by RRAHH
Mind altering substances have always been with us, and varied from culture to culture. But only later on in history did we get stupid enough to make them illegal, with prison time as punishement. It is very costly to a society in both money and families to fight a war that cannot be won, short of a full blown police state, with mandatory executions for drug use. Even under a system such as that, the state would still be executing people, because of human nature. Druggies, the dealers, always think they will never be caught. Kinda like the invincibility of our youth, that they will live forever, and do not contemplate their own deaths, until much later in life, if they make it that far. We use this tendency of the youth, in wars, and they willingly go into battle, thinking they will make it out. That is human nature.
I don't much like the idea that the state has the right to control personal habits, and habits that are strictly personal. If freedom has any value, the role of the state is to simply discourage drug use, by education from kindergarten on. You would fare better, and be less destructive and expensive to society as a whole.
I went to college in a town here in the south that was dry. The students had to drive 20 miles to the county line to buy their beer. So, finally the city decided to legalize beer, but you could only buy it hot, and the stores that sold it, had to make sure you could not see the display from outside the store! And no advertising allowed. NOW, the churches who had kept that college town dry forever, rallied and were claiming that allowing the sell of hot beer would fill our stores with drunks passed out in the streets, in the stores to where the old ladies might get tripped up, etc. LOL
And this is repeated by the anti drug folks, who claim if drugs were decriminalized, we would have a nation of addicts. Truth is, I doubt you would see any rise to speak of in drug use. Only a certain percentage are gonna indulge, and being illegal does not stop these people from indulging. Yet with decriminalization we would get rid of narcs kicking in doors of innocent families at 2 am, terrorizing the innocent adults and their kids. We would empty out our prisons, saving a helluva lot of tax money, and save trillions on the war on drugs, which will never work, unless we go into a full blown police state.
Love one another as you love your self. The other is you, at the most fundamental level.