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Citizen
Not fireworks, barbecues, family or friends, holiday sales, a day off work, or nascar.When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.
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In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.
Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our Brittish brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.
We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.
Freedom.
U.S. House Representative
That's good reading. Excellent post.
If somebody were to put the Constitution on a teleprompter, would 0bama read it?
Secretary of Defense
Unfortunately for freedom-loving people like me, it's no longer Independence Day. A more apt description is Dependence Day. Today, most celebrate how dependent on government they really are. They celebrate the cradle to grave dependence on government to run their lives, in every facet and manner of things. We no longer live in a Republic where government is constrained. What has transpired over the last 99 years is exactly the reasons for which our Founding Fathers wrote that beautiful document in which is quoted in the Original Post.
Governor
I'm 50 years old. In my 50 years, I've never known a single person who celebrates any of that. If you do, I would suggest a new circle of friends.Originally Posted by RRAHH
It's sad that you couldn't allow the OP's point to stand on its own. No reason to throw politics into it, which was clearly your goal.
Citizen
Buzzkill! I agree, but the United States eventual turning its back on freedom can be forgotten for one day.
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Its ok, its a politics forum. I fully expect the Canadians to come in here and tell us how the founders would have voted for Obama.
Governor
What it does it shine a spotlight on those who simply lack the facility to have a reasonable discussion, devoid of partisan whining, about a topic which transcends political views.
Vice President
I am not celebrating Independence Day. It's a joke, given that america is ruled by special corporate interests today. They replaced the monarch. And our stewards allowed it.
I will, if I live long enough, celebrate the Second Independence Day. When we freed ourselves from the elites and once again emphasized the nation over and above the profits of the elites. When we got our priorities in order again.
"Like every other good thing in this world, leisure and culture have to be paid for. Fortunately, however, it is not the leisured and the cultured who have to pay." Aldous Huxley.
Governor
And, just in case there was any question as to whether or not idiocy comes from just one side of the aisle, there ya' go.
Vice President
Taxation (10%) without representation.
We still live in a nation where this is a remote possibility, but still exists.
You should always have an informed opinion, so after I inform you, please feel free to express my opinion...USCitizen
Secretary of Defense
Yet, most people do. Let me ask you one question. Do you celebrate what America is or do you celebrate what America stands for?
Secretary of Defense
I know you will disagree but I don't think it can be forgotten; nor should it.
Vice President
What is idiocy is to celebrate something that has become a joke. We celebrate independence from England as we embrace another tyrant. When this nation is once again governed for the people, I will celebrate the great and noble idea of independence.
Now, I can celebrate the men who wrote those documents and who gave their lives for independence. And I can apologize to them in spirit for pissing on their great achievement. But I will not celebrate america's independence today because it doesn't exist. But I don't celebrate in the name of the easter bunny either. I recognize a myth or fairy tale when I see one.
But we are free to celebrate easter bunnies, and that is a right. At least for now.
"Like every other good thing in this world, leisure and culture have to be paid for. Fortunately, however, it is not the leisured and the cultured who have to pay." Aldous Huxley.
Governor
Celebrate whatever the fuck you want, for whatever reason you deem appropriate.
It won't mean you're smart, but go ahead and do it.
Vice President
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Both, and particularly what it sometimes tries to be
We celebrate what we wish we were, and even more the fact that we wish it
Secretary of Defense
So you celebrate that we've become another dictator-police-state?
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