Thread: why do folks care about what the poor buy with food stamps?

ahoy DNSmith,

Originally Posted by dnsmith

May I suggest a couple of good reads by Jim Corbett. Man Eaters of Kumoan, or the Man Eating Leopard of Rudraprayag. In 1947 after the ill fated partition of India by UK millions of people were displaced. The government of India created a program of resettlement in which hundreds of thousands of square miles of jungle was destroyed to create farm land on which they built housing tracts in which they put the refugees and tried to make farmers out of them. Needless to say with so much habitat being destroyed the big cats and their prey were a serious problem for the people who now lived in their old habitat.

I was walking with a group to a spot for meat hunting (decent meat was not available in the bazaar) As I took a step I heard a funny sound and looked to my left. About 15 yards to my left I spotted that 600 pound tiger stalking us. Without a thought I shot him. A stupid act because had I wounded him he could have killed several of us instead of just picking off 1 for food. My father whupped up on my 16 years old butt for taking such a chance. Later the next evening sitting in a tree stand for the night (a charpoi tied up a tree) I was confronted with another tiger and shot it too.

Unfortunately after reducing the cat population to a workable number based on their typical prey, the tigers and leopards were hunted almost to extinction for the market value of their parts. The numbers went from 15 to 20 thousand to fewer than 5,000 over the last 50 years.

ye seem like a nice fella, so imma not goin' to comment on yer story. if ever i hunger fer heroic tales 'bout slayin' magnificent creatures that teeter on the brink 'o extinction, i'll stick to Hemingway.

lets return to the topic and figure out how we can best deal with the rapacity 'o the poor and what the best new government regulations ought to be introduced to deal with this scourge that's tearin' the financial pillars that support our great republic asunder.

aye.

- MeadHallPirate

Originally Posted by Mrs. M

.... Food stamps allows people to buy whatever food items they want and it's disheartening to see an obese woman with a 150 lb. 8 yr old child standing in line to purchase $40 worth of junk food which includes Gummi Worms, potato chips, cookies, cokes, etc. Considering that many of the items in my store costs $1, that's a lot of junk food! At the same time that mom is paying for this food, you can't help but notice her 3" long fake nails and the extensions in her her as she asks for a pack of Kools. ......

OK so you only support helping people with the same ideas on child rearing, nutrition and fashion that you have.

Poor people will make poor choices, however would you rather the child starve to death than eat junk food?

Originally Posted by MeadHallPirate

ahoy Q of U,

i think thar be some truth to what ye hath stated, matey...but i think Blue Doggy got to the heart 'o the matter in an earlier post.

americans just look down on the poor (and imma no different. in many cases i find meself thinkin', "well, ye made yer bed...enjoy sleepin' in it!). i've found this dynamic sorta interestin' when ye consider that a good many folk who hath responded to this thread hath stated that they be "middle class". back in the 80's and 90's, i'd occasionally have me a weekend in the Hamptons (an ubberwealthy shore community, enclave fer the mega rich 'o New York City) with some 'o me very, very, very well to do friends. middle class folks would probably be shocked to hear how the really rich see the middle class once they've had a few cocktails, snorted a couple lines and loosened up a bit.

people, or at least Americans, piss downward.

Yaaaarrrrrrrgh!

- MeadHallPirate

Yep, the old money rich look down upon the new money rich. The rich then look down on the middle class. The middle class looks down on the poor, and the poor kick the shit out of their pets when they get in the way. Shit does roll downhill.

Originally Posted by RDK

OK so you only support helping people with the same ideas on child rearing, nutrition and fashion that you have.

Poor people will make poor choices, however would you rather the child starve to death than eat junk food?

Can't speak for Mrs M but I'd prefer their parents get off their lazy asses and feed them, as it it THEIR responsibility, not mine as a taxpayer.

Originally Posted by thanatos144

I dont care what others spend their money on ....It isnt mine or your business.

I don't either ... but when people spend MY money then it IS my business if I want it to be.

Originally Posted by Blue Doggy

Yep, the old money rich look down upon the new money rich. The rich then look down on the middle class. The middle class looks down on the poor, and the poor kick the shit out of their pets when they get in the way. Shit does roll downhill.

You've been hanging around with Democrats too much...

Originally Posted by Damn Yankee

You've been hanging around with Democrats too much...

You watch Fox and you're senses have been dulled enough to miss this stuff?

Originally Posted by USCitizen

You watch Fox and you're senses have been dulled enough to miss this stuff?

No. I've noticed that the tendencies that Blue Dog is talking about are prevalent among the Democrats that I know, not the conservatives.

Originally Posted by Damn Yankee

No. I've noticed that the tendencies that Blue Dog is talking about are prevalent among the Democrats that I know, not the conservatives.

Actually, about 85% of what BD posts about is discussed by many Republicans I know who have family and friends suffering the wonderful fate of the Free Market.
And most of these people own businesses.
They were sort of hoping their kids could make it on their own and not have to work for daddy and mommy.

Originally Posted by USCitizen

Actually, about 85% of what BD posts about is discussed by many Republicans I know who have family and friends suffering the wonderful fate of the Free Market.
And most of these people own businesses.
They were sort of hoping their kids could make it on their own and not have to work for daddy and mommy.

Then The Obama happened.

Originally Posted by Damn Yankee

Then The Obama happened.

Many of my friends, except for the RushBot crowd, spent 20 years in yeshiva and study economics and politics so they know all about the Clinton/GW/Obama Bermuda Triangle.

Originally Posted by RDK

OK so you only support helping people with the same ideas on child rearing, nutrition and fashion that you have.

Poor people will make poor choices, however would you rather the child starve to death than eat junk food?

No, what I want to happen is for the government to have more restrictions as to what a person can buy with food stamps. With vouchers, things like Red Bull, chips, candy, coke, etc. could either be eliminated or given in smaller quantities in order to keep a person from spending half of their stamps on useless things. I wouldn't even mind if they were made to take a nutrition class as part of the program. I really don't understand why people do their damnest to protect those on welfare and yet, to get my job, I had to take a drug test and go through an extensive background check...New York wants to ban drinks over 16 oz. Coke and candy machines have been removed from many schools or the products inside have been replaced with nutritional items. Some schools have rules about what a child can bring in their lunch box from home....where's all the outrage over these things? Yet, let someone suggest that people spending MY money be held accountable and the bleeding hearts cry foul. I just don't get it.

ahoy Mrs. M,

lass, i think folks that think the poor should be free 'o increased government regulation fer different reasons.

some bring up the issue 'o freedom...

others talk 'o compassion...

...and whilst i sympathize with them points 'o view, thats really not whar i be launchin' me salvos from. me own issue be a sense 'o proportion. i mean, i can see whar yer comin' from in what ye wrote, i really do. we are payin' fer this stuff, so 'tis not unreasonable fer us to want to have the government regulate how these poor folks conduct themselves.

imma goin' to ignore the steak and lobster anecdotes i've heard....i think they be funny and interestin', but i don't think folks can dine that way on $1.30 per meal. i do accept yer observations that now and then they can buy candy, or perhaps a bag 'o Doritoes, now that would indeed be an indulgence.

what i find goofy is how often this issue hath popped up, year after year, in unrelated threads. this really be somethin' that vexes folks, but i can't fer the life 'o me relate to it on two levels;

a) what the poor would like be the same thing conservatives would like to see. the right wants states to get block grants, so they get thar monies and can spend it as they wish. well, thats precisely what the poor want with thar food stamps.

i don't accept that the poor ought to be have the government up thar arse on how they spend the monies, if they qualify fer it. if thats the case, then thar be a whole lotta states (sadly, these be Red states) that ought to have the citizens 'o Blue states dictate how thar block grants can be utilized. that'll be a bitter pill to swallow in Alabama, Louisianna, South Carolina, Alaska, etc, etc....now they shall take thar marchin' orders from New York, Massachusettes and Vermont.

b) secondly, i just can't see how people can get in such a lather 'o how anyone spends $1.30 per meal monies. its such a tiny figure to me to get so incensed o'er.
ye have senior citizens on medicare eatin' unhealthy foods, gettin' fat...next thing ye know they need a hip replacement ($40,000) but 'o course, habits die hard and they keep eatin', so here comes diabetes...and then a leg amputation ($30,000-60,000), now this old lardass be still enjoyin' his vittles, its the last pleasure he can indulge in...so 'o course he has a stroke and requires open heart surgery ($25,000-$100,000) which leaves him an invalid...so on he goes to some long term nursin' facility whar he'll have 'round the clock care ($100,000- to god knows what, every year). imma tryin' to restrain meself from sayin, "WHY be governor Christie so goddamn FAT!!!??", but thats off-topic* and hath been discussed in a different thread.

now, if ye wanna get outraged o'er blimp-like senior citizens on medicare, i can really relate to that. i wouldn't at all mind if all fat seniors were summarily booted off medicare. at the very least, it would seem like a prohibition on certain items would be in order (no elastic pants, and they all must wear only white, so they look as absurd as possible in thar fatness).

i don't relate to gettin' upset o'er a poor person buyin' rice and beans, day after day, and then "splurgin'" on a bag 'o Funyons. so they took the princely sum 'o $1.30 per meal, scrimped a bit, and then blew thar "savings" on Cheetos. so what?

whar be yer sense 'o proportion, lass?

- MeadHallPirate

* - or is it? does this fat Governor get some kinda per diem monies fer food? and are the taxpayers not ultimately on the hook fer some kinda gold plated government insurance on his healthcare? if so....

...WHY BE HE SO DAMNED HUGE?

aye.