Thread: why do folks care about what the poor buy with food stamps?

Originally Posted by Blue Doggy

Well, you could swap your standard of living for THEIR standard of living, since you actually think their standard of living is higher than yours. I know it isn't, but you falsely think it is. If you ever find yourself in the position of the MAJORITY of these people, I can promise you, if you are honest, you will rethink your deeply held beliefs. You will see yourself as the fool that you are. But only if you are honest with yourself. Most folks ain't. The ego gets in the way. Damn egos.

Sorry no, I spent 6 months living in my truck in Daytona when my money from my first business ran out. Stupid youth. Anyways I busted my hump, never took a dime and dragged my ass out of the hole, 4 years later I had my own house. As I have stated before I have been in business for myself for 10 years and counting.

Originally Posted by USCitizen

Just like all of the Conservatives hiring illegals rather than citizens?
You MUST be living high on the hog with the way you defend off-shoring and business visas.
Your only solution is to take the vote away from the unemployed and perhaps give it to the business visas and the foreigners who are buffing up your portfolio.

I wonder how many liberals hire illegals. You don't really think it is just "Conservatives" do you? You are not that thick are you?

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Originally Posted by USCitizen

If anyone wants to see examples of welfare queens go to NYC's Department of Social Services where the women come in with fur coats and diamond rings.
Yes, I have a friend who worked there for years and though the city is trying to clean up the abuse, a strong voting block still goes a long way.

Detroit area is even better. They pull up in front of the Welfare offices when they have appointments in the same.

Originally Posted by Wlessard

I wonder how many liberals hire illegals. You don't really think it is just "Conservatives" do you? You are not that thick are you?

You should know by now that neither side has my unadulterated adoration.

Originally Posted by Wlessard

Detroit area is even better. They pull up in front of the Welfare offices when they have appointments in the same.

Big city Democrats at work.

Originally Posted by Disillusioned_1

Regarding MHPs comment about foodstamps amounting to ~$4.00 per day per person using them, my son and I calculated (for fun) for a couple of weeks what we typically spend on routine meals in our house (i.e. sandwiches, mac-and-cheese, homemade pizza, cereal, etc) and it amounted to about $2.00 per meal per person (not including the utilities to cook the food), which means $4.00 per day would quite easily sustain a person trying to be more thrifty, or would at least provide the majority of home-cooked food. Now in our house we have steaks, salmon, etc, also at times which is more costly, but in a financial crunch those items are easily avoided. I'm completely confident that someone could survive and be quite healthy on $4.00/day if they were responsible.

ahoy Disillusioned_1,

matey, if i take every word ye say as fact (and i've no reason not to believe ye), then 'tis equally believable that the poor might be able to squirrel away a few dollars here and there to buy some kinda food treat, don't ye think?

most folks here seem to agree that havin' $1.33 to spend on breakfeast, $1.33 on lunch, and $1.33 on dinner be a pretty easily accomlished feat. that would mean that 'tis entirely reasonable that they might buy some candy fer thar children, aye? OR, it means that we as a christian nation are just bein' way to darn generous to the poor and we ought to cut thar daily food allowance to somethin' akin' to what we pay folks in our penitentiares...that would give'm 'round 70 cents per meal.

i also feel vaguely irrated that the most obese nation on the planet feels it has the moral superiority necessary to lecture anyone on what or how they eat, even them who be on Federal assistance.

i find it ironic that what most folks on this thread be clamorin' fer are....aye....more federal regulations (which seems acceptable, since we're inflictin' this on the poor).

- MeadHallPirate

Originally Posted by Q of U

I think we should address the real problem welfare and food stamp fraud. The only reason people can afford to buy expensive food items and come to the store in new Nike’s and have a smart phone is because they are making money else where that is not being reported to the government. Examples working under the table, selling drugs and theft. Ahoy Pirate the next time you get a hankering for some herb why don't you ask your dealer if he is reporting his extra income to the IRS.

ahoy Q of U,

what we should address be fraud in general...and honestly, thar be a tall pile 'o grievances that sit untended. it just seems very niggardly that so many feel such zest in makin' sure we investigate the poor, first and foremost.

also, me dope dealer pays the same amount 'o Federal taxes that Boeing does.

zero.

- MeadHallPirate

Originally Posted by dnsmith

Where I live we could have rib eyes once a week, lobster once, shrimp once, roast beef once, roast pork, roast chicken, and fish once a week, eat on $1,200 a month and have spending money left over.

ahoy DNSmith,

thats great, matey. i honestly think it be wonderful that cost 'o livin' is so invitin' in Alabama (which incidently be a sinkhole fer Federal monies). hell, if ye could eat like that on $4.22 per day, thats terrific! i mean, good gracious, ye have had ribeye, roast chicken, lobster, roast pork, chicken and fish!!! what do ye eat on the seventh day? sawdust?

at any rate, as soon as the nation becomes the United States of Alabama, then all will be well.

- MeadHallPirate

Originally Posted by chassisman

Damn Black, have a friggn Kooliad already........... and you and MHP can stress out over why do folks care about how much rich people make?, same diff............ Oh, wait, it's not the same........the rich made their own money, the people buying lobster with food stamps are tax dollar wasting sucubus'.Attachment 13226

ahoy Chassisman,

i see that someone bought some lobster tails and steaks usin' food stamps. accordin' to DNSmith, this be somethin' thats possible on a $4.22 per day allowance.

someone basically used 75% 'o thar food allowance on this shoppin' spree. so what? as long as they get no more beyond that, who cares? maybe they trap game to meet the rest 'o thar needs, who knows? i mean, fer christ's sakes, anytime the topic 'o huntin' comes up on USPO, it seems that half 'o ye have warm autumnal anecodes 'bout the pleaures 'o bein' in a duck blind huntin' fer antelope (i don't know much about huntin').

so, whats the problem matey?

- MeadHallPirate

Originally Posted by MeadHallPirate

ahoy Chassisman,

i see that someone bought some lobster tails and steaks usin' food stamps. accordin' to DNSmith, this be somethin' thats possible on a $4.22 per day allowance.

someone basically used 75% 'o thar food allowance on this shoppin' spree. so what? as long as they get no more beyond that, who cares? maybe they trap game to meet the rest 'o thar needs, who knows? i mean, fer christ's sakes, anytime the topic 'o huntin' comes up on USPO, it seems that half 'o ye have warm autumnal anecodes 'bout the pleaures 'o bein' in a duck blind huntin' fer antelope (i don't know much about huntin').

so, whats the problem matey?

- MeadHallPirate

Sure...lobster on Monday, Raccoon on Tuesday, Squirrel on Wednesday, Opossum on Thursday, Carp on Friday,......and all of it with Diet Mt. Dew!

Originally Posted by MeadHallPirate

ahoy Chassisman,

i see that someone bought some lobster tails and steaks usin' food stamps. accordin' to DNSmith, this be somethin' thats possible on a $4.22 per day allowance.

someone basically used 75% 'o thar food allowance on this shoppin' spree. so what? as long as they get no more beyond that, who cares? maybe they trap game to meet the rest 'o thar needs, who knows? i mean, fer christ's sakes, anytime the topic 'o huntin' comes up on USPO, it seems that half 'o ye have warm autumnal anecodes 'bout the pleaures 'o bein' in a duck blind huntin' fer antelope (i don't know much about huntin').

so, whats the problem matey?

- MeadHallPirate

Straining the limits of credibility and believability there, my pirate friend. There might be one in a million benefit recipients that suplement their government food stamps by hunting game. Definitely a statistical outlier.

Originally Posted by lutherf

Sure...lobster on Monday, Raccoon on Tuesday, Squirrel on Wednesday, Opossum on Thursday, Carp on Friday,......and all of it with Diet Mt. Dew!

Luth, you drink Dt. Mnt. Dew too? Finally we agree on something! Yoo Hoo Diet Mountain Dew!

I could buy me a whole lot of that stuff with 1200 bucks a month in food stamps. It would be my luck though that some conservative here would see me and I would end up as another food stamp abuse and fraud story. They couldn't accuse me of having a 150 dollar "do" or a 60 dollar nail job though. Or driving an Escalade, a new one, or being wearing 200 dollar Nikes, and with a few grand of ink on my self. Never liked tattoos even when I was in the service and everyone was getting them. Never could get drunk enough to get poor judgement.

Originally Posted by eohrnberger

Straining the limits of credibility and believability there, my pirate friend. There might be one in a million benefit recipients that suplement their government food stamps by hunting game. Definitely a statistical outlier.

WRONG sir. You go to the rural areas of mississippi or alabama and you would see this as common. Especially when it comes to deer. We eat deer here the way some folks eat beef, and there are plenty of food stamp users that fill their deep freezer up with deer. And these men are actually working, but have families and don't make enough to be more than the working poor. But at least they work. Many food stamp receipients here actually work, they just make so little as to qualify for stamps as they have kids.

I would imagine you see the same thing up in the midwest in minnesota, wisconsin and michagan. I live in wisconsin for a couple years, northern wisconsin, and poor folks hunted up there like they do down here. Heck, if you eat deer 4 days a week, you could take some of those stamps and buy yourself a lobster, or bags of candy for your 12 kids.

Originally Posted by Blue Doggy

WRONG sir. You go to the rural areas of mississippi or alabama and you would see this as common. Especially when it comes to deer. We eat deer here the way some folks eat beef, and there are plenty of food stamp users that fill their deep freezer up with deer. And these men are actually working, but have families and don't make enough to be more than the working poor. But at least they work. Many food stamp receipients here actually work, they just make so little as to qualify for stamps as they have kids.

I would imagine you see the same thing up in the midwest in minnesota, wisconsin and michagan. I live in wisconsin for a couple years, northern wisconsin, and poor folks hunted up there like they do down here. Heck, if you eat deer 4 days a week, you could take some of those stamps and buy yourself a lobster, or bags of candy for your 12 kids.

I didn't say that it wasn't a possibility, I was only saying that the population distribution among benefit recipients it wouldn't be statistically significant when compared to all benefit recipients. There are a hell of a lot more people in the towns and cities than in the rural countryside where such hunting is possible.

Originally Posted by Blue Doggy

WRONG sir. You go to the rural areas of mississippi or alabama and you would see this as common. Especially when it comes to deer. We eat deer here the way some folks eat beef, and there are plenty of food stamp users that fill their deep freezer up with deer. And these men are actually working, but have families and don't make enough to be more than the working poor. But at least they work. Many food stamp receipients here actually work, they just make so little as to qualify for stamps as they have kids.

I would imagine you see the same thing up in the midwest in minnesota, wisconsin and michagan. I live in wisconsin for a couple years, northern wisconsin, and poor folks hunted up there like they do down here. Heck, if you eat deer 4 days a week, you could take some of those stamps and buy yourself a lobster, or bags of candy for your 12 kids.

It's all irrelevant really. MHP's point, if I'm not mistaken, is that we have no idea about the details of other peoples' lives. We don't know how long they saved up to by that friggin candy bar, or whether the Escalade is even theirs or not. Maybe someone took pity on that poor woman raising three kids by herself and did her hair up nice so she could go to the store and not feel like a complete piece of shit one day out of the week.

If we're gonna help people we should help people. Give them some money and let them decide how best to spend it. If we can't help out without indulging the desire to shoot at their feet and make them dance, we shouldn't bother.

Ultimately, I think it comes down to whether you see these programs as 'rehabilitation programs' or simply safety nets. I don't want a government that tells us how to live, regardless of what job it's doing for us at the time.